Friday, May 1, 2026

Why we reject the proposition that "time is unreal"

Suppose I have two dollars in my wallet. I've checked very carefully and am certain that that's all I have in there: two dollars. Later, someone gives me two more dollars, and I put them in my wallet, too -- only to find that I now have five dollars in my wallet!

What happened? (The question is not entirely hypothetical.) Most likely I miscounted the money. I must have actually had three dollar bills in my wallet at the outset but mistakenly counted them as two; perhaps two of them had been stuck together or something. Or maybe when I and the other person both thought he was giving me two more dollars, he was actually giving me three. Or maybe someone else surreptitiously put an extra dollar into my wallet when I wasn't looking. Or, if you're willing to entertain  more fantastic hypotheses, perhaps a miracle occurred and the extra dollar materialized in my wallet by supernatural means.

One hypothesis you will not entertain is that sometimes 2 + 2 = 5.

No conceivable extraordinary experience, no matter how well corroborated, will ever make you entertain that hypothesis. People will say, speaking loosely, that its falsity is "self-evident" (which would be news to young children who are learning their sums), but we might more accurately say that it is metaphysically unacceptable -- or, as I have termed such things elsewhere, "philosophically dysfunctional." As Aquinas is quoted as saying in the linked post, such hypotheses "destroy the foundations of a branch of philosophy" and must therefore be rejected. If we admit 2 + 2 = 5 to our system of thought, the system crashes. We may, superficially, have gained the ability to explain that one weird experience with the five dollars. but only at the expense of our ability to really make sense of anything at all. No experience or anecdote, no matter how otherwise compelling it may be, can override that.

One of the philosophically dysfunctional hypotheses (positiones extraneae) Aquinas gives as an example is "the opinion that nothing changes" -- which brings us to Bruce's recent post "The Time Trap," in which he rejects as a nihilism-inducing "pseudo-explanation" the opinion that

All Time is Now - Time is unreal -- Past, Present, and Future are simultaneous - Everything is always happening...

VIP commenter Debbie sent me an email expressing her exasperation with Bruce's position, correctly assuming that if she had left a comment on Bruce's blog directly it would be unlikely to get past his "pretty severe" moderation. How, she asks, can Bruce maintain such a position in the face of her many unambiguously precognitive experiences, experiences which imply that "linear time is an illusion" and yet have made her life more meaningful rather than less so? She writes:

I personally believe that if someone has never experienced the paranormal themselves, which it appears, at least to me, that Bruce has not, then I get somewhat irritated if a person writes or says something that they really don't have personal knowledge of especially if they express their belief as being fact.

But personal experience or lack thereof is actually not germane to Bruce's position. Bruce is certainly aware of the compelling evidence that precognition does occur -- in fact, he was the one who introduced me to the seminal work of J. W. Dunne on that topic -- but his position is that, whatever paranormal or miraculous explanation such experiences may have, the explanation cannot be that "time is unreal" because that is metaphysically unacceptable, a positio extranea, a proposition that will crash any system of thought in which it is included.

Briefly, if there is no time, there is no change. Time and change are conceptually inseparable, and neither can be defined except in terms of the other. And if there is no such thing as change of any kind, then all the unacceptable consequences Bruce delineates follow:

The implication is that nothing matters. 

Nothing makes a difference - because nothing can make a difference. 

There is no possible freedom, no possibility of learning; no possibility of betterment of any kind. 

Indeed there is no-thing At All - except what is, was, always, and evermore... An unchanging situation, that might equally well be nothing as anything. 

Making a difference, freedom, learning, betterment -- these are all subsets of change, and if time is not real, neither is change.

If your life is a book, are you writing it as you go along, or are you merely reading a book that has already been written, a story that can never be anything other than what it already is? If the latter, your "life" is an illusion. You aren't doing anything; nothing is happening; nothing means anything. We reject that possibility as, if not provably false, definitely philosophically dysfunctional. As I wrote in my 2018 post "Richard Taylor's fatalism" (from which I pinched the book metaphor):

If I reject fatalism, my stance is either (a) correct or (b) completely inevitable. Therefore, so far as it lies in my power to reject fatalism, I should do so. I find that I can reject it, and so I do. Perhaps I am right in so doing, or perhaps it is my inescapable fate to adopt incorrect philosophical positions — but I won’t waste any time considering the latter  possibility, because, as I may have mentioned once or twice, there’s no point.

Incidentally, here's a completely insane synchronicity: When I revisited that old post on Richard Taylor, I found that in making my argument I had used as an example the tenseless proposition "There is/was/will be a full cup of coffee on William’s desk at 4:30 pm on May 1, 2018." I guess that was the date and time that I wrote that particular sentence, though the post wasn't finished and published until May 6. I first noticed the coincidence of the date -- today is also May 1 -- and then I glanced at the clock on my computer and saw that it was precisely 4:30 p.m. (I had a half-full cup of green tea on my desk, a near miss.) As a further coincidence, just a couple of days ago, in "Into the mouth of the whale," I posted a synchronicity involving reading the phrase "at 4:30 PM" in a years-old blog post.

Does that synchronicity mean that I was fated to write that sentence at 4:30 p.m. on May 1 and then read it again exactly eight years later, at 4:30 p.m. on May 1? No. For the reasons given above, I reject that explanation and take it as axiomatic that, whatever the sync may mean, it doesn't mean that.

Coming back to the apparent conflict between Bruce's views and Debbie's, Debbie's position isn't really what Bruce is arguing against. She believes in freedom, she believes in choice, she believes that "To see the future means that we can CHANGE IT." In other words, though she likes to say that "linear time is an illusion," she is speaking loosely and doesn't mean it in a strictly literal sense. What she means (or what she would realize she means if she thought it out rigorously) is that linear time is not the whole story -- a position with which I agree and assume Bruce does, too.

Debbie has immense psychic and spiritual gifts, but she is not a philosophically rigorous thinker -- which is fine. Most people aren't, and most people don't need to be. If "linear time is an illusion" is a good-enough shorthand for her to make sense of her experiences, then, well, that's good enough. All of us most of the time, and most of us all of the time, use such imprecise concepts to make sense of the world, because that's how the human brain is designed to work. ("There are no coincidences" is another example.) I respect both Bruce and Debbie and benefit greatly from their very different modes of thinking.

My own understanding of time is essentially that of Dunne. His model accounts for precognition -- including, crucially, the ability to see the future and then change it -- and, far from dismissing linear time as an illusion, it takes as its starting point the axiom that time is real and really elapses, a fact which is impossible to explain or even to express using linear time alone. I believe Bruce currently doesn't have much use for Dunne, since the latter's system is highly abstract, involves complex mathematics, and is fiendishly difficult to wrap one's head around. I agree but do not find that an insuperable objection; after all, the same can be said of Einstein's theory of time (which Dunne partly anticipated in his first book and incorporated in his later work). It's all a question of how rigorous one feels the need to be, and different souls have different needs.

9 comments:

Laeth said...

very interesting post.

Bruce Charlton said...

In a nutshell; I think that most experiences that contradict modern concepts of clock time, are explicable on the basis that all Beings are eternal.

We (and they - all other Beings - including God the Creator) were always around, and always will be around - and Beings have potential for direct inter-Being knowing, and communications.

This (I think true) assumption has vast potential implications - and may serve as *the basis* for alternative (but mostly unconsidered) explanations for many paranormal and supernatural experiences to do with time, precognition, reincarnation, destiny etc.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Bruce, I'm not sure how that would explain most instances of apparent precognition. If none of these Beings actually has or can have knowledge of the future, how is it relevant that they have always existed and can communicate with one another?

I suppose a Being might use the information he has to make a prediction (i.e., a non-supernatural inference) about the future and then telepathically convey that conclusion to another Being who does not have access to the information on which the prediction is based, and the second Being might perceive this as a context-less hunch or dream that then mysteriously comes true. (As a contrived example, a telepathic astronomer could cause someone ignorant of astronomy to dream of a solar eclipse the night before it occurs.) Is it your position that all apparent instances of precognition are actually pseudo-precognitions of this type (meaning telepathically communicated inferences made by other Beings)?

Ra1119bee said...

William,
Excellent post.

 IMHO: anything in matter in this duality dimension,
 including the brain, can be 'changed' and/or manipulated.

The soul transcends matter and can not be changed
 therefore it's eternal. The soul works outside the box/
boundary of this duality dimension.

The ego pleasures
and protects the physical body only. It works within
the box. The ego, like a computer, only works from information
which has been inputted into it, which those 'facts'
may OR may not be true, which is the definition of an illusion.

The ego will always help convince us that 2+2= 4,
because that is what we have been told is reality.
Those 'facts' helps sustains this dimension so
that everyone will be on the same page
which is needed to maintain order.


If we're not on the same page
we're ghosted, ridiculed, attacked verbally
and physically courtesy of other 'ego's.'

Therefore our ego learns to stay in its own lane and don't
rock the boat. 
Thinking is not the same as knowing.
The sage doesn't think. The sage knows.

The sage rocks the duality boat because the soul knows
that there are many other realities to consider because it ( the soul)
has experienced all of those realities during its
 thousands of incarnations.

When I speak of linear time as being an illusion, I mean
 and I personally believe, that this reality is not the only one.
This duality dimension is controlled by TIME that has an expiration date.
Everything in matter dies.

Anything, that is in this duality dimension
of time and matter can be controlled and that especially
includes knowledge. The soul
is the exception. It is a separate entity void of matter.

The soul is housed 'temporarily'
 in physical matter ( the physical body) because a physical body,
i.e. a vehicle, is needed to navigate this duality dimension
of gravity.

The brain however is matter and subjected to control.

The soul 'free's us.

All IMHO.

Bruce Charlton said...

@William

"Bruce, I'm not sure how that would explain most instances of apparent precognition."

The difficulty with precognition is that most definitions of the things are (from my POV) metaphysically impossible - so that what is being explained is the experience, and the experience is (more like) that sometimes something with some very specific similarities is foreseen by somebody.

IMO The precog experience relates to a tiny and discrete slice cut from the continuum of a reality whose only Real division is between beings - all the other divisions being hypothetical "models" designed to "save the appearances".

A precog experience might be caused by one Being (as it were) announcing to another that he knows about something specific that will be encountered, or that he will be creating/ making some specific change - at some point in the future.

And then the Being doing something like engineering the specific encounter (as best he may, by influencing "behaviour") or making that thing happen (as best he may, by similar means).

This raises the question of "why". There might be an intent to harm, or to provide some worldly benefit - but I tend to think that most of these attributions are secondary and after the fact, and to the extent that they are true they are at least somewhat manipulative.

The primary Good impulse behind two Beings interacting is more like the desire/ need for relationship. In other words Love - when "Love" is seen as dynamic, purposive, and having "creating" as intrinsic to it.

It is a gross overgeneralization of what may be a multitude to relationships between many specific Beings - but procog synchronicities could be understood at a rather crude and ineffectual form of attempted relationship between other Beings, and oneself. A way of getting attention, an intended start-point to something more.

I am pretty sure, however they are explained, that synchronicties and precog experiences are *meant to be* (as they were for me) a means to an end, not an end in themselves; the *start* of a process of re-orientation, of challenging false and harmful metaphysical assumptions.

In other words - "the medium is the message": it is the form rather than the content of precog/ synch experiences that matters.

(Which also fits with the fact that the experiences are nearly always "useless" - in this-worldly pragmatic terms. Their benefit *if any* is for the experiencing person and his spiritual development, assumptions, motivations etc.)

Ra1119bee said...

Bruce,
You wrote: "Which also fits with the fact that the experiences
 are nearly always "useless" - in this-worldly pragmatic terms.

 Their benefit *if any* is for the experiencing person
 and his spiritual development, assumptions, motivations etc."
~~~~~~
My response; IMHO,
the spiritual growth of humans ( be it 1 or 1 million and 1 )
is not useless because everything is connected.
We need each other.

I believe that humans share a harmonic collective consciousness,
much like a flock of birds who, when flying together,
all turn in unison without bumping into each other
causing chaos.

That same collective consciousness is also at work
in humans. Ever read of a tragic event happening,
a fiery  car crash for example , and several good
Samaritans running towards the fire, doing
whatever it takes to save those inside, including
pets and many times at great loss to the hero?

Many times a hero when interviewed
will say that they didn't even stop to 'think about it',
they just did whatever they could do to help.

What's the 'benefit' **if any*** to humanity
of a ' hero'
in the big picture sense?
 I believe the big picture, the WHY if you will,
 is Compassion, There by the Grace
of God , go I .

 Each 'spiritual development' for
one is not only a spiritual development for all of us,
but I believe that it's the only thing that insures
humanity's enlightenment and societal growth
which and IMHO is how we earn
our right to be one with God. In other words,
we done our best to help another soul
and not just for our own ( ego based) gain.

 I believe that when our soul learns the lessons that is offered
each incarnation, and has completed its journey
around the Wheel ( the astrological wheel )
 and at the final 12th lesson 'sign' of Pisces,
 (which Pisces is the sign of serve or sacrifice )
 and with all lessons learned and Karma paid,
we are then 'released' from the wheel
 and worthy to be one with God.

And to a high vibrational soul,
never having again to be incarcerated ( incarnated)
in a heavy perishable physical body
in a warring chaotic duality dimension called Earth
 is quite frankly..... heaven. At least it is to me.

I believe that Pisces' mission is one of
reminding humanity that we are more than our physical
bodies. If millions of people believed that, do
you really think we couldn't make changes to our
existence here?

 However  and IMHO,
our biggest impediment which blocks us from 'getting to heaven'
 is our ego, strengthened by our opponents ( master
manipulators of divide and conquer)
so as to minimize the power of our collective consciousness
and most importantly our soul.

Why do you think Transhumanism/ gene editing
is our opponent's final frontier? Think they don't know
the 'big deal' and WHY of every power source
including the paranormal? 
I bet the farm that they do.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Debbie, Bruce didn't say spiritual development is useless. He said that precognitive experiences are generally useless EXCEPT from the standpoint of spiritual development.

Ra1119bee said...

William,
Either way my point that I am making is that the paranormal
( which includes clairvoyance/intuition, clairaudience,
telepathy, remote viewing, dreams
( especially premonition dreams ) and synchronicity)
is not useless in any regard.

I believe the paranormal is the foundation of our existence
in this duality dimension and like all power sources
in this dimension, it can be used for good or evil.

To believe that we are just here to work on our
own spiritual development with a few other beings
is the quest of the ego in my humble opinion. Me..me... me.
The ego is our soul's adversary, not our ally.

As stated if all of us believed that we are more
than our physical bodies William, think of the possibilities
and the changes we could make, not only
in our collective spiritual growth, but in our societal
growth. Are we not our brother's keepers?
And not only the 'brothers' who think like us.

Do you think there would be as many
wars? Greed? Lust? if we respected each other?
Wars, hate, greed and lust are all ego pursuits.
I personally believe that both spiritual growth
and societal growth go hand in hand.

"""Coincidently""" a couple of nights ago I decided
to watch a Twilight Zone episode. I think I shared
that I have the entire complete series of the 1960's
Twilight Zone on DVD. There are about 4 or so episodes
on each disk. Each disk in its own case. I just choose
a random disk to watch. On that particular disk
was the episode titled The Gift.

Having seen all of the Twilight Zones episodes
many many times
I know all of the storylines of each episode.
I always felt that The Gift was a very spiritual story.
The character, Mr. Williams , an archetype of
Jesus.
Copy and paste:
"Plot
A humanoid alien has just crash-landed outside
a mountain village in Mexico,
just across the border from Texas.
He has accidentally killed a police officer
and was wounded by another.

When he reaches a village bar, he collapses.
A sympathetic doctor operates on him,
removing two bullets from his chest.
The alien (who refers to himself as "Mr. Williams")
becomes friends with Pedro,
an orphan whose job is to clean the bar.

Pedro receives a gift from Williams,
who tells Pedro that he will explain it later."
~~~~~~
Note the setting is in a bar. It's liquid/ water that
quinches our parched thirst.

Interestingly The Gift very closely mirrors
this topic we are discussing today.
What are the odds? I certainly did not know
this subject would occur when I watched The Gift
a few days ago.

The Gift mirrors my belief about spiritual growth
also being societal growth because everything is connected.
Everything is connected is not just some hippie dippie meme.

I think it's quite odd that I pulled the disk
with that particular episode
because it 'coincidently' makes my point.

If you get a chance, check out the video.
There is a full episode
of The Gift as well online.

**I tried to find just a short clip of the episode
but almost all of the videos were reviews so
I just chose this one. This narrator's review I think
pretty well mirrors the storyline quite closely.

Twilight Zone S3 E32 The Gift review w/insight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf5WcQ5f-pU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gift_(The_Twilight_Zone)

Ra1119bee said...

William,
I was rewatching the link of the Twilight Zone episode,
I just sent a few hours ago.
As stated I just found this clip of the episode The Gift
today ( May 2 ) and have never seen it before.
It was a random find.

Also as I shared I did watch The Gift a few days ago
and while I did notice the Victoria phonograph's
HORN attachment (which caught my
eye as it connects with my puzzle pieces) but what
I didn't see before (and lo and behold ( and it never fails)
check out the bar scene starting about marker/frame
1:29. See all the octagons on the front part of the bar?

And although some may say that these little incidents(syncs)
have no real significance to anything, I would ask: then why are
they there? Why is an Egyptian One Eye symbolism
on the Mormon Temple? For Decoration?

Symbolism means everything in paranormal experiences
to those who have the eyes to see and like a key
it's far from useless when it unlocks that one door to
treasure, which and IMHO.... is knowledge
and more importantly truth.
Humanity can not progress together without
knowledge and truth, and in the grand scheme
of things, that's a pretty big deal,
at least to me.



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