Tuesday, July 8, 2025

Terry the giant Irishman critiques my supposed literary preferences

When I dream, I dream about books.

Last night (July 7-8), I dreamt that I was walking through the corridor of a Mormon church, accompanied by a girl of four or five who was wearing a fancy white dress that made me think that, even though it’s not a Mormon thing, she was there for her First Communion.

In the corridor, we first passed an ordinary-looking middle-aged woman in business wear, who nodded a greeting as she walked past. Next we encountered what I thought of as a “giant Irishman,” a very tall overweight man who somehow reminded me simultaneously of Tim Dillon and J. P. Sears.

“I’m looking for Nemo the Mormon,” he said. (In real life, Nemo the Mormon is the online handle of the recently excommunicated British Mormon agitator Douglas Stilgoe.)

“He’ll be in the kitchen,” I said and led him to the kitchen. There were several men standing around in there, and I told him which one was Nemo. “He’s the one with the ponytail and the black waistcoat.” (Not what the real Nemo looks like.)

“Great,” said the giant Irishman. “I like Nemo. My name’s Terry.” He held out his hand.

“William,” I said.

Terry changed his mind about the handshake. “Yeah, I don’t like you.”

“You don’t like me? You don’t know me.”

“What I don’t like about you,” he continued, “is that you’d rather read this than this.”

He was holding a massive book in each hand, each of which he waggled in turn with its respective this. These were children’s adaptations of classic works, each with a colorful cover and a different title from the original. Despite clearly being intended for children, the books apparently hadn’t been shortened at all. Each was as thick as a Bible.

The first book, the one Terry claimed I’d rather read, had a title along the lines of Sometimes We Fight (I can’t remember the exact wording) and had a picture of a fat lion on the cover. This was clearly a rebus for the name Leo Tolstoy (whose surname means “fat” in Russian), and I understood the book to be an adaptation of War and Peace.

The second book, which Terry would have preferred I prefer, was called The Wily Whale. The cover illustration was a closeup of a ship, showing its name: HMS Tory. This, I immediately understood, meant HM story, the initials being those of Herman Melville. The book was a version of Moby-Dick.

I was indignant. “Look, I don’t know how you think you know me, but I’ve never even read War and Peace.”

The little girl interrupted, speaking in a musical voice and adult diction that made me think she must be some supernatural being disguised as a child.

To Terry she said, “Angelina. Pleasure.” Then, turning to me, “What I think the gentleman is trying to convey is that you have a tendency to prefer an intellectual like Keats over a straight shooter like Herman Melville.”

“Keats?” I said. “That’s War and Peace! Look, it’s got a fat lion on it. And I don’t read Keats, either. And intellectual? I’d trust Melville on whales over Keats on nightingales any day!”

Upon waking, I wondered if the giant Irishman might be yet another face of Gross Gaur, who was also referred to as “the gentleman” even though his name was known. Terry as in Terry Gross, from NPR? (Terry Gross is a slim Jewish woman, not a giant Irishman, but that’s no insuperable objection. Gawr Gura is the wrong size and sex, too.)

If it turns out there’s some obscure Keats poem about a fat lion, I will be suitably impressed.

“The wily whale” is a phrase from “Fare Away,” a song from the Christopher Guest film A Mighty Wind. One of the verses is a bit synchy:

First mate Peter's a hardened man
Says the captain's a charlatan
Don't know tackle from futtock plates
He’ll sail us into the pearly gates

Fare away, fare away under main topsail
To the furbelow of the wily whale

Sailing to the pearly gates calls to mind the “Gloria” music video I recently posted. Like me, Gloria wades into the sea and falls to her knees. Then the waters part as for Moses, revealing that a shining door had been hidden underwater.

5 comments:

William Wright (WW) said...

For a few reasons my initial guess is that Terry is none other than John (Aragorn/ Thingol/ The Baptist/ etc.). Makes sense to me, but there are a few other candidates to think through as well.

The fact that he was looking for Nemo is funny, and seems to me a very specific callout to the movie "Finding Nemo", in which the focus was also on looking for Nemo. That nod might be another clue in nailing down the Merlin character. In Finding Nemo, it is Marlin, Nemo's Father, who is looking for him. Marlin can be a variant of the name Merlin. It can make sense to have John represented by Merlin, again for a few reasons, so something to consider as well in looking to nail down the identity of that symbolic character.

The name Nemo - besides the above movie reference - likely also ties to the symbols that have come up in relation to Odysseus. Odysseus introduced himself as Nemo to the Cyclops. That name means "Nobody".

An additional guess is Captain Nemo from Jules Verne's novel is also alluded to here.

But it is also seems a probably callout to Neo. The fact that you found Nemo dressed in black, and with a pony tail/ tale, in the kitchen would support this. A kitchen is where things are cooked, and cooking is, by definition, done by applying heat and fire.

The Wily Whale also calls to mind Willy the Whale from the movie, Free Willy. The whale in the movie was named Keiko, a Japanese name that means "Blessed Child" and "Lucky Child".

A name meaning Lucky One would support the above connection in bringing to mind Joseph-Ausir, whose Elvish name means "Luck"

William Wright (WW) said...

The fact that John the Baptist appears in a dream just a few days after your "baptism" experience might also support that guess. It might also be additional context for his statement of dislike for you, partially explained in his discussion of the two books and their authors.

That is just a guess that obviously only holds if Terry was in fact meant to represent John. If not, then not relevant at all.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Interesting possibilities, but I still think Terry is likely Gross Gaur. "Giant Irishman" makes me think of the Fomorians, who came from under the sea and were conflated in myth with the Vikings. Ireland itself can be a stand-in for Atlantis; I own a book called Round Towers of Atlantis which was originally published as Round Towers of Ireland.

The name Terry (short for Terence) makes me think of Housman's poem beginning "Terence, this is stupid stuff."

https://www.poemtree.com/poems/TerenceThisIsStupidStuff.htm

It is implied that Terence is overweight, or at least well-fed, and he has apparently written a poem mourning the death of a cow. I had associated Gross Gaur with Atlantis by way of "Cowtown."

The poem is usually referred to by its first line, but the only title Housman gave it was the number LXII, or 62. In the last verse of "Fare Away" (whence "the wily whale"), we learn that the singer is 62 years old.

https://genius.com/The-new-main-street-singers-fare-away-lyrics

In connection with your guess that Terry is "John," I note that one of the two biblical figures you combine under that name is associated with the word "tarry": "If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?"

I should mention that the previous night (July 6-7) I had another dream in which I was in a Mormon church with the little girl in white. In this earlier dream, we were in a Sunday school class, and among those in attendance was Barack Obama. Obama started behaving strangely, opening his mouth extremely wide and contorting his body into unnatural positions. At one point he stretched out and lay down on a row of chairs. I thought someone should be recording this but decided it would be more polite to pretend not to see it. Anyway, I didn't have my phone with me, as I never bring phones into churches. Soon, everyone in the Sunday School except me and the girl got up and started doing a conga-line type dance (which is something I've seen in the True Jesus Church, where it means you've got the Spirit). The leader of the dance was Al Sharpton, who called me out for my lack of participation and implied it was racist.

There was no music in the dream, but I woke up with the Pixies song "Hang Wire" in my head, particularly the lines "Every morning and every day / I bossa nova witcha," which I associated with Christopher Walken dancing the bossa nova with aliens in the movie Communion.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Scott Crane quotes that same Housman poem in Last Call: “And malt does more than Milton can / To justify God’s ways to man.”

William Wright (WW) said...

Ireland came up so many times on my old blogs that I had to look into it back then. You won't remember, but I had landed on Ireland being a reference to Numenor. This would be in line with your connection to Atlantis. One meaning of Ireland is "West Land". Another name for Numenor is Westernesse, with both names also meaning literally "West Land".

So, I agree that Terry's Irish identity is a clue here pointing to Numenor.

It is important to remember that Aragorn (my earlier incarnation of John) was Numenorean, as the last living heir in the line of Elendil during the time of LOTR. So the Irish identity makes sense here if Terry represents him.

In addition to the word play of Tarry/ Terry (which is a really good), you mention Terry is short for Terrence/ Terrance. It isn't always, though. Terrance works here, but the other names Terry is short for or a variant of I think should also be considered.

One is Teresa. The other is looking at it as the variant of the German Thierry and the Gothich Theodoric.

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