I scrolled down a bit and unexpectedly found this:
Telperion the gold treeLaureline the tin treeGeology loversSoul brothersTo find the 8 othersAnd, with kabbalah to enhance the ultimate hunterOne dreamA world tree of lifeManifesting the sun to remove darknessA mix between animals, DNAs, light arrows and astral swordThe greatest war of our timeTo reload history within hearts
Telperion and Laurelin are Tolkien's Two Trees of Valinor, but Telperion is the White Tree (not gold), and Laurelin is the Golden Tree (not tin). I'm not sure what is meant by changing the metals up. Two posts down is this, either a continuation of or a response to the first tree post:
gold, silver and tinwill end up in binsooner or latera something greateran astral sworda cutting worda shining lightfor final fightthe tree will growas we are now
The Trees of Valinor are not a common topic on /x/. Searching the archive for telperion, I found a grand total of 8 posts. The archives go back 12 years, so that's an average of one reference every year and a half.
Tin has featured in numerous syncs here in the past, most intriguingly in connection with snow.
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What bizarre posts (I know, it's /x/, but still...). I don't have any ideas on the different metals. Other recent sync themes appear in your search results, though.
I scrolled through the thread to see if there were any other interesting pics. The one attached to this post has a teal flamingo-like bird.
archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/30505543/#q30507552
And then, for whatever reason, I checked the newest archived threads. Man, I rarely visit /x/, but the Nobody gens are still around? Usually skip them, but I guess they'd be slightly more tolerable than certain other gens IYKWIM. I had a quick look at the most recent Nobody thread; the third image looks like an ancient Egyptian gondola. Got a small giggle from me.
archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40829275/#q40829291
Also, searching for laurelin only turns up five posts. Oddly, two of them (similar in content) use "Owl/Aule", but also call him Melkor's alter-ego...?! That's some seriously out-there headcanon.
William,
Part 1 of 2
You wrote:
"Telperion the gold tree
Laureline the tin tree
Geology lovers
Soul brothers
To find the 8 others
And, with kabbalah to enhance the ultimate hunter
One dream
A world tree of life
Manifesting the sun to remove darkness
A mix between animals, DNAs,
light arrows and astral sword
The greatest war of our time
To reload history within hearts "
~~~~~~
When I read your post, yet again the first thing
I thought of was my prediction about what I believe
will be a shifting of ages.
How so?
One of the first rituals of ushering in the new age,
(the new age being The Age of Aquarius
aka The Silicon (data ) Age)
begun on Sept 11, 2001 when the Twin Towers
were destroyed.
The towers were destroyed First because
they were symbolic of the silver gate.
Boaz and Jachin being the twin pillars
in Freemasonry.
Recall that the World Trade Towers were silver.
The base of the Twin Towers were Poseidon's tridents( see link )
Poseidon's rod being very symbolic.
Copy and paste:
"Imagine a weapon capable of summoning storms,
****splitting the earth, and commanding the creatures
of the deep. This is the power embodied in Poseidon’s trident
the three-pronged spear that serves as both
the tool and the symbol of the Greek god of the sea,
*** earthquakes, and horses.
~~~~~~
Recall I commented recently about the
'cracks and earthquakes.
Also recall I shared with you
my July 14, 2014 Moon River dream.
In that dream the moon fell down into water
which caused the chaos.
Note the month of my dream was July,
the month of Cancer which the crab
has been in the sync stream of late.
I found this interesting about the connection
of Poseidon and the crab.
Copy and paste: ( see link )
"According to this myth, a giant crab named Crios
guarded the sea nymphs in the Greek
god Poseidon's kingdom.
He was enormous and strong, and Poseidon himself
had blessed him with immortality."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
William
Part 2
Also regarding the element Tin.
Copy and paste:
Tin is a chemical element;
it has symbol Sn (from Latin stannum) and
****atomic number 50**.
A ***silvery-colored metal, tin is soft enough
to be cut with little force,
and a bar of tin can be bent by hand with little effort.
When bent, a bar of tin makes a sound,
the so-called ****"tin cry", as a result o
******twinning in tin crystals.*****
~~~~~~~~~
In this wiki description note the atomic number 50.
In my Moon River dream I mentioned that the bus driver
in the dream( who was Black) was asking me about
another Black man who that man had a 50 which
I felt that a 50 meant some type of gun (FIRE Arm).
Recall there is a Tin Man in The Wizard of Oz.
I believe that the silver gate Twin Towers
were ritualistically destroyed so as to create a ONE tower.
Symbolic of E. Pluribus Unum.
The Telperion,( the gold twins next
to be destroyed) I believe will be
the Golden Gates. In San Fran and Jerusalem.
Lions of course symbolic of the sun/gold
were also in The Wizard of Oz
In alchemy the 'intercourse/marriage
of Moon and Sun, to create One.
The Geology lovers in the poem
representing the Georges , perhaps?
I think I symbolically represent the Soul Brothers
in the poem, because I am not only the seeker,
but perhaps also the 'speaker 'of the soul.
Interesting another 8 connection.
One Dream mentioned in the poem
perhaps symbolic of the collective consciousness
and my favorite saying : Everything is connected.
Also in the poem, the mention of mix of animals
I thought interesting given my recent
experiences with the deer. Deer is also very
symbolic in the Leave the World Behind movie.
My deer have come back almost every other night
on our property. I think I told you that one day
last week while I was sitting on the porch,
both of the fawns not only came closer
to the house, but after eating they both
laid down in our garden and went to sleep.
This happened for about 2 hours.
And last but not least I think the final words
speak not only for themself
but also mirrors my Great Upheaval
Past life Reading, and also my
shifting of ages/Great Reset prediction.
****The greatest war of our time
To reload history within hearts****
~~~~~~
Perhaps reloading means a reboot, or a reset
and/or reincarnation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boaz_and_Jachin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin
https://www.greekmyths-greekmythology.com/poseidons-trident/
https://archive.nytimes.com/cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/08/two-trees-return-to-the-world-trade-center/
Tin is one of those metals that is figuratively considered worthless or of little value. So, positioning Laurelin as a Tin tree, which both inverts the appearance of the metal associated with the Tree as you mention as well as substitutes Silver, a precious metal, with worthless Tin, seems like it could mean something.
For a long time before Silver and Tin were recognized as separate elements, apparently Tin was thought to be Silver "debased by lead".
William
The Tin man in the Wizard of Oz needed oil to walk
which meant he was very dependent.
You could say he was worthless because when
we are dependent we are vulnerable.
Dorothy helped Tin Man walk by administering the oil
with the oil can.
Oil can make empires 'move' and therefore
progress.
However Tin Man's "big picture" and destination was
to find a heart.
Now replace the symbolic Tin Man with Corporate
America dependent on oil to move and progress
especially in the Industrial (Iron) Age.
After the ending of the Industrial Age
and the ushering in of the Silicon Age, once
again we find the Tin Man via Robotics,
A I, automation etc..but this time the tables
have turned and Dorothy becomes dependent.
Problem is, the Silicon Tin Man doesn't
need or seek a heart.
America—Tin Man 1974 ( see link )
Sometimes late
When things are real
And people share the gift of gab
Between themselves
Some are quick
To take the bait
And catch the perfect prize
That waits among the shells
But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have
And cause never was the reason for the evening
Or the tropic of Sir Galahad
So please believe in me
When I say I'm spinning round, round, round, round
Smoke glass stain'd bright colors
****Image going down, down, down, down
****Soaps a green like bubble*****
Oh Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have
And cause never was the reason for the evening
Or the tropic of Sir Galahad
So please
Believe in me
When I say I'm spinning round, round, round, round
Smoke glass stain'd bright colors
Image going down, down, down, down
Soaps a green like bubble
No, Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have
And cause never was the reason
for the evening
Or the tropic of Sir Galahad
So please
Believe in me
Oooh ooh ooh ooh-uh
Oooh ooh ooh ooh
Oooh ooh (dab dabad dab)....
~~~~~~
America - Tin Man 1974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGl4PP9xaaQ
The Wizard of Oz--"Dorothy Meets The Tinman"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xU31HGcNT8
Oooops sorry
My above comment about Oz and the Tin Man
was a response to WW's post, not William.
It is also interesting to note the sync started with the symbol of Gondola, which caught your attention because it is associated with WG. You then took note of the Laurelin tree and even named your blog post after the strange Tin Laurelin reference.
It's interesting due to a connection between WG herself a variance of that tree's name.
Bill, I noticed that about the name, too.
Tin is a pretty ambiguous symbol. It occurs in the Bible both as a synonym for "dross" and as a valuable commodity listed alongside silver and gold. For Isaiah, tin in the silver is equated to water in the wine, potentially linking it to the Temperance card of the Tarot, which depicts an angel diluting wine with water. In astrology and alchemy, tin is associated with Jupiter, a surprisingly humble metal for the king of the gods.
Debbie brings up the Tin Woodman, whose quest for a heart perhaps links him to the miner for a heart of gold, the brown emmets and the Ace of Hearts. The Tim Powers character Scott Crane, whom I have tentatively associated with myself by way of the Jack of Hearts/Cups, was known to his fellow poker players as Scarecrow Smith, so Wizard of Oz characters are potentially relevant. There's also the story of the Tin Woodman's being transformed into a Tin Owl for an extended period of time. I suppose that's the type of owl most likely to be able to eat a metal worm.
The really interesting thing for me in this context is that the only reason I know of that name association is due to a note WG had sent in which she inverted symbols associated with the Two Trees. I won't go into detail since it was a private note, but will just summarize a few points at a high level since it might be relevant.
She had written me to tell me that I was wrong about a central element in my story involving Faramir-Eonwe and Eowyn-Ilmare. One of the major assumptions in my story is that Eowyn ascended with the Ithil Stone at some point following the Third Age, and she is still in that form (i.e., she didn't die like everyone else) somewhere not on this Earth. Faramir-Eonwe, however, is assumed to be here on this Earth, along with several other characters, though reincarnated and has no knowledge or memory of that time.
Anyway, WG told me I had that backwards, and that Eowyn was on this Earth now, and Faramir wasn't. She was very confident about this. Eowyn and Faramir, and the associated Ithil and Anor Stones (Sun and Moon), have both direct and symbolic ties to the Two Trees. Further, WG made some personal associations with that Moon symbol.
Thus, seeing a reference to a Tin Laurelin, with Tin being a stand-in or replacement for the Silver or White Tree, and its associated Moon symbolism, but inverted with the name of Laurelin, brought that back to my mind.
As another follow up on this "Tin" theme, I woke up this morning with the phrase "Tinny Trang Tang" on my mind. It was like a fun little alliteration that just kind of rolled.
I actually originally wrote it down as "Traing", most likely in sounding it out phonetically, but I don't think that is a spelling of any word, so my guess is it was Trang, and thus why I wrote it out above that way.
My guess is both Trang and Tang are Chinese words, so would be in your wheelhouse. Or rather, Trang is a Vietnamese version of the Chinese Zhang/ Chang, I think. You would know better than I do. Probably spoken in the Vietnamese form to give us the T alliteration (you are stickler for rhyming convention, and alliteration is just a rhyme involving the beginning of the word).
My understanding is that Tang can mean something like "Ring, ringing, sound", etc. which fits in well with the "Tinny" adjective. When something is described as Tinny, it can mean, in music, "having a displeasingly thin, metallic sound". In terms of describing metal, it can mean "thin or poor quality metal".
So a Tinny Tang could give us a something describing a ringing sound that is noticeably thin, or not quite right.
My understanding is that Trang/ Zhang/ Chang can refer to a sheet of paper, among other things. This gives us another interesting play on words with at "Tinny Sheet of Paper", or a metallic sheet of paper. You've had enough references to plates with characters on them that my mind went to this as and additional and connected meaning. A Tinny Trang would refer to thin metallic plates.
So, a few thought starters but that is as far as I looked at in just a few minutes. Given the seeming Chinese nature of the words, and the continuation of Tin, I thought I'd pass them on over.
Interesting. More than one description of JS’s plates says they were the thickness of “common tin.”
“Tang” has lots of possible meanings — the first that come to mind are “hot,” “soup,” “sugar,” and “lie (down).” I can’t think of a word with that pronunciation that refers to ringing. The usual character for a ringing sound is, oddly enough, pronounced “ling.”
Yeah, looking at it again now, "ring, ringing" is actually the meaning of the English word "Tang". So, it could be that Tinny Tang was meant to be English after all. I don't know why I was thinking Chinese, but that was on my mind.
As for Traing/ Trang, then, I have no idea. Could all just be gibberish - that happens. The "tinny" made me pay attention, even more so since I saw you posted again on it.
Tang in English also refers to a Serpent's Tongue, sting from an insect, etc., as well as refer to how something tastes, just looking at all of the options.
In the very early days of Internet chat rooms, in 1997 or so, there was a service that would give you an online handle by generating a random adjective-noun combo. The one it gave me was Tin Pie.
That's interesting.
Your mention of Joseph's Plates and the association with Tin had me thinking as well about James Strang's plates, which outside of the Gold Plates are really the only other "real" plates from Mormon history.
I looked those up to see if Tin had anything to do with them, but just saw the same tin-type adjective used, in that witnesses said the plates were the thickness of tin. Unlike the Gold Plates, Strang let a bunch of people see and handle them, as did his descendants, and I think they even got lost because someone forgot to return them years down the road.
Several witnesses described them as brass (with doubters claiming Strang must have forged the plates from a brass tea pot). Today, Brass is defined as a copper and zinc allow, with Bronze as the copper and tin alternative. Historically, I guess, the distinction between Brass and Bronze was less clear, and it would be more accurate to think of them all as some kind of copper alloy. So, there is a possibility that what was described as Brass would be our Bronze. Hard to say, but this also applies to the mention of Brass in the KJV... in many instances, Bronze would have been the correct translation.
I did find the interesting fact that Strang wore a crown of made out of tin during his coronation on Beaver Island (though some accounts describe it as a paper crown decorated with tinsel).
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