Tuesday, May 13, 2025

They did carry with them swarms of bees

The "swarms of bees" with which the Jaredites traveled (Ether 2:3) have come up on this blog many times. It thus got my attention when I saw "The Life of a Busy Bee (and Beekeeper)" on Synlogos and found that it included this:

When her mother asked Lucia of Fatima what she would like as a gift when she made her profession, she asked for a beehive. Can you imagine what it was like riding on the train with a hive? Perhaps her mother had an entire railway carriage "alone" with 25,000 bees.

Train, schmain, imagine it on a submarine!

4 comments:

William Wright (WW) said...

Lucia of Fatima caught my attention. You have Lucia meaning "Light" and Fatima meaning "To separate", and also "Daughter of the Prophet", in reference to Mohammed. But these are really good links to the Bee in our story. I actually just mentioned another name that means Light in the other comments with Ruth B. The Being who this references plays a role in gathering out Beings to a Safe Haven - part of the 'separation' of the righteous and the wicked the Book of Mormon speaks of. Literally, the Family of Light being separated from their enemies and brought to a safe place.

The fact that you connected this to the Jaredite bees further links this, as the Bee in question in my story is Izilba-Eowyn, who was with the Jaredites (being Jared's spouse) and who I suggested the Book of Mormon term Deseret pointed to.

Now, it is also interesting that you had that imagery a little while ago of that man eating the swarm of bees. When I saw that, it appeared to me as a very Pharazon-esque image, despite the claim that the bees were happy to be piped into the man's mouth. You now know a little more about why I might see it that way. Pharazon was said to have invaded Eressea and, along with Sauron's wolves, devoured and destroyed the lilies on that land.

Those lilies were said to produce the pollen and nectar that the bread and mead of Eressea came from (the Bread is Dear, remember... very dear!). So while Pharazon didn't literally eat an entire swarm of bees, he may as well have, because he ate everything that the was meant for those bees, leaving nothing (mostly, anyway, as I understand it).

Izilba - the Bee - and Pharazon were counterparts on Numenor, by the way. In fact, as the story goes, Pharazon's grandfather, Gimilzor, tried to arrange a marriage between the two, but Pharazon was after the throne and so married Miriel. Even if this wasn't the case, though, Izilba and Pharazon held each other in "distrust and at times open contempt". They didn't get along.

While it is true what I wrote over on Leo's blog that you seem like a nice guy and I don't personally have anything against you, I myself wondered why some of the things I've written have targeted you so directly, in what I think could objectively be said as confrontational. It's not usually my style. Where is that coming from?

You wondered that as well, and went to your Tarot cards to answer the question "What is going on with Bill?". You pulled the Queen of Pentacles (fortunately not the Queen of Tentacles... that would have been no bueno for me!), showing a woman wearing a Red Robe and holding a Ball, gazing into it. You ended up going through some gymnastics to tie this to Captain Moroni's misplaced anger at Pahoran, given everything I was writing in your comments. However, I interpreted the symbol differently, looking at it as a much more direct symbol of the source being the Queen herself, which helped further explain things, at least to me.

Ra1119bee said...

William,
Part 1 of 2
I was hoping that you'd post another bee topic
and the sync Fairies didn't disappoint.

Case in point:
After I shared that link of the clip
from the 2024 movie the Beekeeper and the link
to the very interesting ( at least to me)
mythological tale of 'Telling the Bees',
I did a bit of more research about the connection
of both the fish and the bee because of
me being both ( astrological Pisces) and name Debra
the bee.

While researching, lo and behold, I found
this very intriguing article titled: The Pollen Gods
( note the two LL's in pollen ,
L being the El's ( aka the power sources
aka the Shining Ones) .

The article is really fascinating ( at least to me)
especially the author's perspective about the
connection of the palm tree and the date fruit
which that got my attention because of
the palm tree being sacred to the prophetess bee Deborah.

Connecting Deborah to me, I wondered if the evergreen
tree ( which there are over 200 on Marshall and I's property)
had any connection to palm and lo and behold it does as
they both a part of the Arecaceae family!.( see link )

Here are a few excerpts from the article.
Copy and paste from The Pollen Gods:

"Before reviewing these legends – starting with
the Biblical reference –
it is worth recalling that, with respect to the Bible and bees,
Jesus Christ was known as an Aetherial bee.

Bees appeared on statues of the Goddess Artemis
(whose priests were called Essenes, or King Bees)
and Ephesus, the city where her most famous,
bee-laden statues hail from,
had a bronze-age name that translated as ‘bee’.
Further, honey is mentioned sixty-one times
in the King James Bible, and the Book of Luke (24:41-43)
confirms that the first food eaten by Jesus Christ
after his resurrection was a honeycomb.


"The possibility that Isaiah’s wife had the gift
of prophecy is alluring,
for ‘bee’ in Hebrew is**** DBRE,****
meaning Deborah, and Judges 5 contains one
of the oldest passages in the Bible and, some believe,
the earliest example of Hebrew poetry,
the Song of Deborah, which translates
as the Song of The Bee.

Deborah, the prophetess, represented
stability and was a warrior princess
, and the only female judge of pre-monarchic Israel in the
entire Old Testament. In short, she embodied
the qualities of a queen bee"
~~~~~

Ra1119bee said...

William
Part 2

You wrote this:
"When her mother asked Lucia of Fatima what she
would like as a gif t when she made her profession,
she asked for a beehive.
Can you imagine what it was like riding on the train
with a hive? Perhaps her mother had an entire
railway carriage "alone" with 25,000 bees.

Train, schmain, imagine it on a submarine!"
~~~~~
And speaking of traveling with bees this
article also references to the same.
Copy and paste: asterisks mine

"The relatively modern Mormon faith is largely
based on The Book of Mormon,
a scripture from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,
of questionable age and authenticity.
Nevertheless, The Book of Mormon
features the Jaredites, a curious people,
descendant from a man from Babel named
Jared, their founder, who migrated
to North America with bees, ****dragging their boats****
through ancient lands along the way."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Note that in Deborah,*** DBRE*** , the bear.

Isn't telepathy fun?

'Dem bee Fairies be busy, no?

https://andrewgough.co.uk/articles_pollen/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecaceae

I'm reposting the clip from the movie
the Beekeepers as I think it supports
my perspective about WHY the extremely
significance and sacred connection to humanity
and bees.

In the scene, Wallace Westwyld, played by Jeremy Irons
makes reference to the bees working tirelessly and
truth be told, I too feel that way because running
against the wind(i.e. having different perspectives
than the norm's narrative) is exhausting and lonely.

After one of the solders in the group
remarks that the Beekeeper is:' just like us',
listen to Westwyld correct them and explains why
the Beekeeper is not like them.
And although Westyld didn't say this,
I believe what Westyld meant is that the 'soldiers'
takes orders from others not knowing if the orders
are righteous or not and it really doesn't matter.
The soldiers don't think for themselves.

The bees work for a higher purpose and commit
to that purpose only, which is to make the 'sweet'
for humanity. Which knowledge, including
knowledge 'that stings', is the sweet.


Jeremy Irons explains Beekeepers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLmWcALHu_g

Ra1119bee said...

William,
I forgot to add these interesting connections
referenced in the Pollen Gods article regarding fish,
as it was the
tag words I entered in google : bees and fish
that led me to this article.

Here are the interesting connections:
Copy and paste
"In the Assyrian tradition the Apkallu appear
not only as eagle-headed gods,
but also as ***fish-skin-cloaked****
and human-headed gods.
Each was considered a protector –
a guardian against evil spirits.
~~~~~

Also in the article the author references
Luke 24: 41-43.
Copy and paste:
Luke 24:41-43 The Passion Translation (TPT)
The disciples were ecstatic, yet dumbfounded,
unable to fully comprehend it.
Knowing that they were still wondering if he was real,
Jesus said, “Here, let me show you.
Give me something to eat.”
They handed him a piece of
****broiled fish and some honeycomb****.

https://andrewgough.co.uk/articles_pollen/

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