Robin Hobb, by the way is just about the most hobgobliny name ever.
I also noted the rather Numenorean imagery (Tolkien always specified a green wave) on the cover of this book by another Robin:
I used to be able to list every Robin that there was, and it used to drive my mother crazy. She used to say, “Robin Lister, if you don’t stop listin’ Robins!” . . . Robin Hood. Christopher Robin. Robin Williams. Robin the Boy Wonder. Robin Goodfellow. Robin redbreast. Natural all-natural Robin whitebreast. . . .
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That's funny. I hadn't thought of Best in Show in who knows how long but just yesterday I was on a client call. She was talking about trying to release a new line of products that would help them break into the very competitive world of dog groomers for show dogs. "It's very difficult. We've been told they're like a crime syndicate," she said. "Crime syndicate?" I replied, "haven't you ever seen Best in Show?" She hadn't but I assured her they were nothing to be afraid of. And now this morning I saw this post. Odd coincidence.
Odd coincidence indeed. Speaking of Christopher Guest movies, I guess I should have included Robin Wright in the list.
You recently quoted from Ulysses with the "anne hath a way" wordplay. And you know that Ulysses is the Latin form of Odysseus, and Joyce's book linked to the Odyssey, which you show here in the post with the Green Wave. I mentioned my view was that the "way" that Anne has prepared was intended to overcome the effects of the wave and the severing of the straight road (so Galadriel wouldn't need to cry anymore).
The name Ulysses/ Odysseus means "wrath, anger, hate, to cause pain".
I had a pretty terrible dream I had back in 2019 which involved what I can only describe as demonic possession, and which since has seemed to be a very Pharazonic dream in nature, it was hate and anger which were the most intense feelings that I had. It was only at the end of the dream that I realized those feelings of hate were not coming from me, but from some demon who hated me. But while in its possession that hate worked through me and was directed at my own children. It was only at the end of the dream that I was freed from this hate, which was a relief, but seemingly too late as I then plunged into a dark pit.
Again, as I reflect on the story arc of that dream, it plays out as very Numenorean.
That blurb for "Fool's Gold" caught my attention. Seemed relevant to the Numenorean story as well as some of your prior links.
It talks about the bold dream of a small tribe at "J.P. Morgan", obviously referencing the bank, but the name jumped out at me.
Morgan means "Sea-dweller", which seems pretty spot on with respect to Numenor. J.P. stands for John Pierpont. We've covered John enough, but Pierpont is pretty good. It is a French word for "Stone Bridge".
In my story, it is a Stone or Stones that provide the way or this bridge in the future. But, if you remember, we had linked that exact phrase - Stone Bridge - with the Great Tower on Numenor. You had shared a picture of Vishnu in what looked like an attempt to build a stone walkway or bridge on the water. I had linked that concept to that of Pharazon and the Numenoreans building their Great Tower and their own effort to reach heaven.
Further, in researching that link, you were specifically led back to earlier posts on "Goblin Market", or our hobgoblins, which you also mention in this post with the name Robin Hobb. Here is one of your posts on this link, as well as the Vishnu post where they build the Stone Bridge:
https://narrowdesert.blogspot.com/2025/03/when-only-goblins-are-out.html
https://narrowdesert.blogspot.com/2025/03/a-non-hindu-interpretation-of-vishnu.html
The Odyssey cover frames the green wave between two pillars, a further link to Atlantis, described by Plato as being “beyond the Pillars of Hercules.”
Your dream also suggests Hercules, who was driven mad by malevolent gods and murdered his own children.
The Hercules observation would fit very well with the Numenorean assault as described in Daymon's writings. They Elves described their "Fathers", now living as Men on Numenor, driven mad under Sauron and assaulting their own children:
"But no longer; our hearts as one, lastly, turned to those fathers, who upon Numenor came, in droves, and driven under Thu-Sauron’s Mists, steered where once they lofted high songs, to Valar’s cocking ears, tune-hungry; Those fathers! Our own, in time, to Numenor came, and thence to our ancestral palaces – theirs giving in lot, to we their children, faithful most! – lumbered fleshy, appetite-full slaked, in blood lust, murder, whore-molling, and worse; Our Fathers! Crazed were they..."
I don't know how true that account is, obviously, but the imagery matches up well with my dream and your Hercules reference.
I had imagined Pharazon being one of these Fathers originally, also, but don't know where I currently stand on that. I also don't know who Daymon guesses these Fathers are, but for me in my story, they are associated with the 96 of the original 144 Elves (a symbolic number, likely, not the actual count) in the beginning and it is these 96 that the Three Disciples were actively involved in gathering in the events of 2020, and which concluded with 82 of the 96 being whisked off somewhere. 14 remain.
Going along with the theme of a Gentle Way vs. the "Fangs of Discipline", it was nothing but love that the Disciples expressed toward those that they were gathering. For example, on February 28, 2020, as it seems that the first group was preparing to travel from wherever they were to our world, one Disciple starts off by saying: "Everyone, I love you freely...".
A few months later, in another context but in the same phrase/ day as mention of "Baltha Sheave" (that we had potentially linked to Balthazar/ the Black King) and "Father's Day", this was said:
"Love: something everyone borne/born here to understand".
In that phrase, you had this double meaning of people being carried somewhere (borne) but also being born, as in becoming a little child or born again.
When I saw your Tyke on Fish picture, showing a little child being borne somewhere by red fish, it made me think of that phrase on love.
There’s a Hercules tie-in with that Reality Temple meme, too, with the Arnold image taken from Hercules in New York.
Your mention of the Arnold image from the Reality Temple meme jogged something and may make sense of a dream I had back in April, or at least tie into it.
I was first at a party or gathering in a multi-level building. The nature of the building and it's multiple levels seemed important, as I found myself in an elevator trying to get to the right level.
Either the party shifted to a cruise boat, or I just found myself on one, and on the deck of the boat was a very deep swimming pool. For some reason, I determined that something needed to be found within the pool and retrieved.
I prepared to dive into the pool, but before doing so, I took off my shirt. I suddenly noticed a woman sunbathing next to me. She looked up at me and rolled her eyes while saying, "You're probably looking for any excuse to take off your shirt, huh?".
I dove into the pool and began descending down. It was much deeper than I had imagined - it seemed bottomless - and I woke up as I was still swimming down in search of whatever it was I was trying to find.
Anyway, I had forgotten that Arnold in that meme is shirtless.
And of course Numenor was buried under the wave, so perhaps the dive down into the pool was an attempt to find it.
Also, one other thing I thought of in reflecting on the Gentle Way vs. the Fangs of Discipline.
Nimloth/ Asenath is the Being who I believe Anne Hathaway in my dream was intended to represent. In my story she is also identified with Este, one of the Valar. Este's name in Elvish means "Rest, Repose, Peace", and she was given the epithet of "The Gentle". So, Este the Gentle.
Thus, a Way associated with Asenath/ Anne Hathaway, would be a Gentle Way, which is what Joseph saw in his vision/ prophecy of Nimloth gently scooping many people home to safety.
In high school I read Hobb's Farseer trilogy, first of her series (which I neglected to continue) including The Golden Fool. Farseer follows Fitz, a prince's bastard son, whom is trained as a royal assassin and has an ability to telepathically bond with animals (doing so first with dogs, then a wolf); the Fool is a court jester and becomes Fitz's friend. According to Wiki, the series' third trilogy, Tawny Man, continues the story 15 years later. Golden Fool sees Fitz masked "as a servant of the Fool, who dresses as Lord Golden", and learning the Fool lived as a woman named Amber during the timeskip. Wiki's Tawny Man summaries also include Piebalds, "Witness stones", a stone dragon, and a supposed prophet called the Pale Woman (though the Fool is the real prophet).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farseer_trilogy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawny_Man_trilogy
Amber again! Are the books worth reading in your opinion?
Farseer didn't have a lasting effect on me (Fiona McIntosh's Quickening and Isobelle Carmody's Obernewtyn take pride of place there, far as fantasy goes) but I recall enjoying it, and Hobb's a decent writer. Going through Wiki's summaries my only real annoyance is the Fool's "genderfluid-ness", though I don't remember if that featured in Farseer. I doubt the word is actually used in the books, and the telling sure wouldn't be as ridiculous as current year (eg. no dumb pronouns).
WG's references to Farseer and The Golden Fool turned my mind to Joseph, who in one theory was likely the Being Pharazon was trying to be as he dressed up in his gold clothes.
Joseph's association with Golden imagery is pretty well established, and he was known as both a Seer (likely the pre-eminent one) and referenced as Fool multiple times, on Numenor and elsewhere. Joseph would have been exiled from Numenor (being known as a mad-fool and shipped off by decree of an oracle, I guess) roughly 100 years or so before Pharazon was born.
Things would like have turned out differently on Numenor had they kept Joseph around, but we don't know really what that would have meant. Joseph kept his own account, and I believe this would have been captured by Asenath on the Brass Plates. So once we have those, we will know a bit more. In exiling Joseph, the Numenoreans pretty much set the stage, it seems, for Pharazon to fill the role Joseph might have played. We just don't know, though. But it well could be that the mistake of the Numenoreans wasn't just viewing Pharazon as the one meant to help them, but missing and shipping off the one who actually was meant to.
Anyway, with a "Golden Fool", I think we have a double meaning or reference to both Pharazon and Joseph, though obviously in different ways.
I am also playing around with some experimental thinking on the Lilies on Eressea and the notion of Fool's Gold, but still noodling.
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