Thursday, July 17, 2025

Sly St(all)one

In a brief dream just before waking this morning, I was sitting at a computer searching IMDb for the name Sly Stone because I wanted to find the first movie he had been in, but nothing was coming up. I expressed my frustration, and a person standing behind me -- who seemed to be a White woman but was not otherwise clearly defined -- said, "Well, why don't you just look up the name of the movie? It was First Blood. Everyone knows that." With that, I woke up.

First Blood (1982) of course features Sylvester "Sly" Stallone, not the psychedelic funk-soul musician Sly Stone. It's not Stallone's first movie, either, though it's the one that introduces his iconic character John Rambo. (Rocky would have been more relevant, I would have thought, if we're going to be conflating the actor with someone named Stone.)

I know essentially nothing about Sly and the Family Stone. My mother has mentioned a few times that she used to listen to them back in the day, but I believe it was her brother Eli who was the big fan and owned all the records. There were no Family Stone albums in the house when I was growing up, and prior to doing the preliminary research occasioned by this dream I wouldn't have been able to name a single one of their albums or songs or to have recognized Sly in a police lineup.

Since I obviously should have been searching the Internet for Sly Stone's first album, not his first movie, I went ahead and did that. The band's debut album, released in 1967, was A Whole New Thing. I thought I might get a picture of the album cover and one of the First Blood poster and put them together as an illustration for this post. Looking up A Whole New Thing on Wikipedia, though, I found that there were two different covers to choose from. The caption accompanying the second of these caught my eye:


Rose Stone, for those who have been -- or rather, for those who haven't been living under that particular Rock -- is the name of the central MacGuffin in the story being developed by Bill Wright, a 30-pound red stone which is a palantir-like object and has lots of important information and stories stored on it. (I suppose the title of this post suggests that "all" is contained within the Stone.) Bill has also been insisting lately that adjectives like cunning and wily can have a positive meaning, so sly fits right in.

Another interesting coincidence is that Sly Stone (who died just last month, it turns out) happens to share my birthday, the Ides of March.


Note added: After posting this, I had a vague memory of having seen a T-shirt in Taiwan that said something like "I would never try to stab you. If he'd stop being so shady, he could find a nice young lady. You don't have to die before you live."  I had googled the text and found that most of it (minus the stabbing bit) was from a Sly and the Family Stone song. I don’t think I photographed the shirt, or if I did I can’t find the photo, but repeating the search confirms that the source is indeed Sly Stone, the song "Life."


"You don't have to die before you live" is directly relevant to my last post, in which I wrote, "You can't really reincarnate without dying first, but people somehow tend to overlook that."

10 comments:

William Wright (WW) said...

My guess is that the name First Blood as it relates to Sly Stone is extremely relevant.

Blood is a word that is also used, per Etymonline, to refer to family: "person of one's family, race, kindred; offspring, one who inherits the blood of another".

So, you can take First Blood with that alternative meaning and see where you go from there.

Blood being the color of Red also symbolically factors in, would be another good guess in my view.

Also, I have to say, I love the continuation of the "Everybody knows!" theme your dream guide employed. That phrase seems to point back to the Jay Leno dream. My guess is it wasn't accidental.

Lastly, on your update thought, it could be the "You don't have to die before you live" links to two very different, opposite, yet connected events separated by quite a lot of time. The first is the Numenorean story. "You don't have to die before you live" was the message that Sauron fooled Pharazon into believing, and it is exactly what caused the assault on Eressea and Valinor.

That event was a twisted version of the true story of people travelling to Heaven without dying. Although some people like the Bountiful Disciples and others have done this, the larger event that Pharazon's failed attempt points to has yet to occur. In my story, the Rose Stone will play a major role in providing a way for this to happen. Human Beings will make a seemingly impossible journey in their current bodies, as part of the Wheat being gathered home, like Calves to the Stall.

The last name of Stallone means "Cow Stable", by the way.

William Wright (WW) said...

Viewing Blood as having to do with Family (and even the mention of a Family Stone) ties very well into a message I received in early 2021 relating what the Rose Stone is about. I shared it on my own blog, and maybe in the comments here also (I can't remember):

"The story on the stone is the story of our family. It is meant for our family, to cause them all to shine. It is a story of love, of our love undying and unending, even in a void. To bring forth, even in this nothing-place, love's power - our family's power.

You came powerless, as did others, with hope in a promise. The story is the promise, and the power.

And the void, now de-void it own power, recedes; what WAS NOT now becoming IS."

A Family Stone and a Whole New Thing, for sure.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Rambo was named after the poet Rimbaud, who has his own “first blood” connection, as his synaesthetic poem Voyelles identifies the vowel I (Roman numeral 1) with the color red.

You may remember Rimbaud as the “drunken railer” who indirectly prompted your intercessory post on my behalf.

Ra1119bee said...

William,
Another "Stone" song is from the 1970's band
Earth, Wind and Fire titled; In the Stone,
lyrics by EWF's leader Maurie White.

In the Stone was one of EWF's 'message' songs,
which the core of EWT was to awaken and transform
the Black community' to spirituality as
opposed to disco.

I found this wording in the lyrics very interesting
given my last comment about staying
true to our beliefs.
Copy and paste:
"Do you believe, my friend, in what you claim?
People of the world all doubt the same
Bringing questions of their own, yeah
Truth is, truth is written in the stone

(Look in the stone)
In the stone, you'll find the meaning
You're not standing tall
('Cause in the stone)
In the stone, the light is shining
Ever touching all

Deep inside your heart for you to keep
Lies a spark of light that never sleeps
Greatest love you've ever known
Love is, love is written in the stone'
~~~~~~~~~~~

In the Stone---Earth Wind and Fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlavfQHFnPw

https://genius.com/Earth-wind-and-fire-in-the-stone-lyrics



William Wright (WW) said...

In one dream scene from last night, I was shown two men. They looked so alike, my instant response was "On, they're brothers!". They almost could have been twins, but I don't believe they were. As I recognized they were brothers, a third man entered the frame, who looked just like the other two, but was older. I assumed this was their father (though I guess could have been an even older brother?).

The scene shifted, and I believe it was these same initial two men (though their may have been additional people in the scene), who faced me and held up their hands in front of them, spaced aparts, with their palms facing toward each other. The distance their hands were apart seemed to be meaningful - as in, it was a gesture one makes in trying to relate how long something is (for example how big a fish someone caught, or something).

I had a lot of other dreams, but missed most of them on waking up. They were so seemingly varied and rapid fire I couldn't hang on to most of them. The scenes above were some of the ones that stayed with me, though.

As you may recall, when I first started writing on my blog, I had a dream in which "the sons of Alma" were referenced by a woman's voice, and that I would be friends with them. I identified these sons as Helaman and Shiblon, and would later come to the conclusion that these two were the Stone Couriers who carried the Rose Stone from Idaho to Tom B.'s house in France. Pretty important characters in current events involving the Stone.

I think these brothers from dream were the Stone Couriers.

I went back and read this post and saw that you noted the weight of the Stone, but not its diameter. The gesture the men used were giving this missing dimension: 8 inches. Later this morning, I actually got out my tape measure and held my hands in the position I remembered the men holding their hands in, and 8 inches is a good estimate for what I saw.

Given their role as the Couriers, their gesture may have also symbolized their role in carrying that Stone during its transit to France. If you were to carry a stone in front of you, you would use the same rough hand position these men were using to do so. These are two eye witnesses and physical handlers of the Stone, so they can confirm its dimensions. In other words I picked up in 2021, which I've gathered were the event of them being given charge of the Stone, one of them remarked that it was the size of a cantaloupe. From my online search, many sites have 6 - 10 inches as an average size range for the fruit, so that remark would have been accurate.

I have another interesting finding I'll share in a follow up comment which is also related to the dimensions of the Stone.

William Wright (WW) said...

Back in 2020, I was curious about whether an 8 inch diameter ball that is 30 pounds made sense. I looked up what an 8 inch ball of steel/ metal would weigh, and learned that it would be approximately 80 pounds. So, whatever the Stone was made out of was less than half the density of steel or a similar metal like brass.

I think I may have left it off at that (2020 was a rough year...), or at least I don't remember then looking up other specific materials, and was content to know that the numbers could make sense with a material less dense than metal.

So, this morning, inspired after doing my tape measure exercise with my hands, I decided to do some unfinished business and see if I could find what material, or at least material comparison, is implied in the size of the Stone as given.

Since the Rose Stone is, as you mentioned, a Palantir-like object, and those Stones were said to be made of crystal, I looked up the density of various crystals.

After noting that there is a somewhat broad range for crystal densities, I decided to look up one specific crystal: Dravite/ Tourmaline. Dravite was the crystal inferred in my 2020 words that first led me along my hunch and later guess that the Liahona was actually not brass, but a crystal, and also that it was the Anor Stone (a guess that was very shortly later confirmed by who I guess are the Stone Couriers). In other words, I had come to the strange conclusion that the Liahona was comprised of a crystal that was something like Dravite/ Tourmaline. This was also a crystal that could reasonably appear to be metallic like brass depending on how it was finished.

The specific density of Dravite is 3.03 - 3.18 g/cm^3, according to the National Gem Lab (see link: https://nationalgemlab.in/dravite/). The equation to find the mass of a sphere is M = 4/3 * Pi * r^3 * Density. Converting the density to imperial, and then running the equation gives us . . . drumroll . . . a mass of 29.3 to 30.8 pounds.

That is as direct hit - the 30 pounds is right in the middle of the expected range.

Now, the Dravite connection was specifically to the Anor Stone, and the Rose Stone is a different Stone, so I am not saying the Rose Stone is made of Dravite, but it does seem that whatever crystal it is comprised of shares almost the exact same density as Dravite and the Anor Stone. Thus, the Anor and Rose Stones may even be themselves made of the same crystal, whether that is actually Dravite or not (it would be some crystal with the same density properties as Dravite).

Anyway, that was pretty impressive to me, and felt like it was a calculation that was 5 years overdue, honestly. It was neat to see the various references in my words (Dravite, the dimensions of the Stone) come together in a result that was exactly correct - down to the pound.

An 8 inch, 30 pound crystal ball would be reasonable to handle, though would still feel fairly heavy. It is doable to hold. A sold 8 inch ball made of metal, whether brass or steel, though? Forget about it.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Bill, it’s impressive that the numbers add up like that. I didn’t mention the diameter in this post because I wasn’t sure I remembered it correctly and didn’t have any way of looking it up. The 30 pounds I could check because I remembered it was approximately equal to the 14-kg dumbbell that featured in one of my own dreams.

William Wright (WW) said...

Right - I didn't read anything into the missing diameter other than it felt complementary, or like the men providing the other known dimension.

After some additional investigation, I found a type of Tourmaline that is the same family as Dravite but is a Red and Pink in color. The crystal is Rubellite, a name that means "Reddish". Wikipedia makes the specific claim that it is "the rarest gem in its family. It is occasionally mistaken for ruby." Here it is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubellite

Give the Ruby has been a symbol that has seemingly pointed to the Rose Stone, the existence of Rubellite seems interesting. We have no way of getting to a specific crystal with any surety, but Rubellite is at least a crystal that fits the 8 inch, 30 pound requirement, given that it has the same density as its sister crystal, Dravite.

Ra1119bee said...

William,
And once again speaking of Egypt,
I forgot to add that the song: In the Stone
( by Earth Wind and Fire )
is referring to Egyptian hieroglyphs.

Also WW's comment about the Ruby crystal was
interesting as a Ruby crystal has yet
another Beatle connection in their movie HELP!

Here's the plot of HELP!
Copy and paste:
An eastern cult (a parody of the Thuggee cult)
is about to sacrifice a woman to their goddess, Kaili.
They notice that she is not wearing the sacrificial ring.
Instead, Ringo Starr, drummer of the Beatles,
has the ring, sent to him by the intended victim,
who is a fan of the band.

Determined to retrieve the ring and sacrifice the girl,
the chief priest, Clang, several cult members
, and high priestess Ahme leave for London"
~~~~~~~
The ring was a Ruby crystal, which Ringo,
born on July 7 (my sister's birth date as well ),
is an astrological sign Cancer which of course
the birthstone of Cancer is a Ruby.

The Beatles - Help! Movie Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rQXgU06mqs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help!_(film)

Ra1119bee said...

William,
I mentioned my sister's birthdate being the same
as Ringo and I just noticed the date today.
My mother's birthdate was July 17.

Probably just a coincidence ?? however it made me
think of a very odd experience that happened
to me after my mother passed into spirit
on Aug 4 2002, which is this:
In May of the next year ( 2003) I was in
in a greenhouse looking to purchase
flowers to plant for the upcoming summer
season. It was on Mother's Day.
I was still grieving my mother's passing.
There were people walking around browsing
the plants as well, but it wasn't very many
people there.

At one point I saw a White woman ( whom
I did not know ) walk past the aisle
where I was browsing. I just happened to look
her way and as she was walking towards
the door to leave the greenhouse.

At that point she looked over in my direction
and said very loudly ( as I was standing in the middle
of the aisle) she said this: Isn't
your Mother with you!!??

I immediately looked behind me thinking
the woman was speaking to someone
behind me, but there was no one there.
The woman continued to walk out the door.

I haven't thought of that odd experience
in a long time until today.

I been Art Garfunkeled

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