Saturday, July 24, 2021

Please read aloud

Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio, contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium. Imperet illi Deus, supplices deprecamur: tuque, Princeps militiae caelestis, in virtute Dei, in infernum detrude satanam aliosque spiritus malignos, qui ad perditionem animarum pervagantur in mundo. Amen.

16 comments:

Bruce Charlton said...

I don't think it would be effective unless the reader knew what the words meant.

Otto said...

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. Amen.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

I think it would.

Chent said...

Thank you. I prayed it in my language. Now I will pray it in Latin.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Latin works. Morphic resonance, maybe?

Mr. Andrew said...

That Pope Francis hates Latin is enough proof for me that it has some significance.

Joe said...

I would tend to agree with Bruce's comment, but on the other hand I did coarsly "know" what it meant, and what the intent was, before looking at the specific words or their translation, especially given the context of the previous post.

jorgen said...

Xander don't speak Latin in front of the books.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Vernacular translations:

Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle; be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, O prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God thrust into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls. Amen.

聖彌額爾總領天使,在戰爭的日子裡保衛我們,免我們陷入魔鬼邪惡的陰謀,和奸詐的陷阱中。我們謙卑地祈求,但願上主遣責牠。上天萬軍的統帥,求你因上主的威能,把徘徊人間,引誘人靈,使其喪亡的撒殫及其他邪靈,拋下地獄裡去。亞孟。

cae said...

I honestly don't mean this antagonistically - it's a genuine question:

That prayer must certainly have been prayed, in Latin, for at least a thousand years or more -

- if it "works", why are "Satan and all the evil spirits" not only 'still' on the "prowl about the world for the ruin of souls"...

...but seem to have been growing in power to 'succeed in the ruin of souls' over the last 20 years??

Maybe, we need a new prayer...maybe if a group of spiritually like minded people could agree on a particular prayer (perhaps discerned thru intuitive/Divine thinking)...maybe a prayer like that would 'work'.

Maybe that's what God 'needs' us to do...maybe we have to 'create' an opening in order for Him (or His Archangels) to intervene in the current world situation...?

Carol
p.s. Sorry for all the ellipses - I can't help writing the way I talk.


jorgen said...

We should pray that God slay all the globalists. Psalm 59 has a line in verse 11 "Slay them not, lest my people forget: scatter them by thy power; and bring them down, O Lord our shield." I disagree. Lord slay the globalists and let us forget they wvwr existed. Cut off their memory from th earth, O Lord.

Gorgias said...

@cae that prayer to Saint Michael was composed in 1884 by Pope Leo XIII

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

@Carol

As Gorgias has already said, that particular prayer isn't actually that old, but your larger point still stands. How long have people been praying the Lord's Prayer? But God's kingdom has not come, and his will is not done on earth as it is in heaven. It's certainly legitimate to ask in what sense these prayers can be said to "work."

My own experience with Leo XIII's prayer to St. Michael is that I found it effective in ending a poltergeist infestation. It didn't thrust Satan and all the evil spirits into hell, but it did "defend me in battle" against the lower-level "unclean spirit" I was dealing with. And I believe that's where our focus should be -- on our own individual battles in the spiritual war.

As for such "impossible" petitions as "thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven" and "thrust into hell Satan and all the evil spirits," I think they should be seen less as requests to be fulfilled than as declarations of desire and alignment, a dedication of oneself to the Lord and the Lord's side.

cae said...

@Gorgias - thank you for pointing that out, I really must learn not to be so assertive with my assumptions ;^)

@Wm - I think it's fascinating (and a bit reassuring) that you found the prayer literally "effective" against a poltergeist....that must have been a frightening experience!
I know people don't like to talk about such things that have actually happened to them, as there's a sense that talking about it 'gives attention' to the phenomena, which can attract more -
- but if you feel comfortable to share just an overview of the story, I would be really interested in reading it, particularly as to how you (having been Mormon rather than Catholic) came to the idea to use the "Saint Michael" prayer against the "infestation".

Also, can I just say?...I find your linguistic abilities absolutely amazing!! Having barely managed to learn enough French to forget most of it after 40 years -
-I just find your capabilities with language extremely admirable, especially as I can remember reading somewhere that learning Chinese is nearly impossible for most Westerners, due to the way our brains are 'wired' (or something like that) right from childhood.

Carol

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

@Carol

The prayer was recommended to me by a Catholic correspondent of mine who knew of my situation.

You are absolutely right about Chinese. With the one exception of Navajo, it is by far the most difficult language I have ever attempted to learn. Even after living in Taiwan for 17 years, I have only reached a very modest degree of proficiency.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

"if you feel comfortable to share just an overview of the story"

Feel free to email me.

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