Wednesday, August 6, 2025

Behind that spaghetti

The Happy Days character Fonzie was the subject of a recent sync. I know nothing about that show or character and couldn’t have told you which of the blokes in the “Buddy Holly” video was him.

So I looked him up. The character is an Italian-American “greaser” stereotype, and his real name is Fonzarelli. My reaction when I saw his face, though, was, That’s about the most Jewish-looking “Italian” I’ve ever seen! Then I corrected myself. What about Chico Marx? Or George Costanza! Fonzie at least dresses, talks, and acts like an Italian, but every single thing about George Costanza screams Jewish except for his last name. Kind of weird. Jerry plays his own Jewish self, but George is supposedly a neurotic “Italian” schlemiel who doesn’t celebrate Christmas. Why didn’t they just make the character explicitly Jewish like Jerry?

And isn’t it weird how effortlessly I was able to think of three iconic “Italian” characters played by Jews? It’s not as if there’s any shortage of Italian actors.

This train of thought brought me to “Behind that spaghetti is none other than Herman Gottlieb.” As recounted in my post “Thought and conscious will,” that’s a Groucho Marx line that was emailed without comment to me and two others (Vox Day and John C. Wright) by someone I don’t know. I had interpreted it as meaning that hiding behind stereotypical Italian-ness is a Jew. Fonzie would be a good example of that.

Then I checked my email and found another one from that same guy, again sent to the odd threesome of Vox Day, John C. Wright, and me. Why us? I wondered, not for the first time. How did he choose this particular set of three stooges to send his random emails to? I don’t know why my thought took that particular form. “Musketeers” or “amigos” would have worked just as well, but “stooges” is what came to mind.

The guy sends these emails every few months. Most of them are links without commentary, and I almost never click the links or reply to  emails. (Sorry, random guy.) This time, though, John C. Wright had replied to the email with a YouTube link of his own, saying nothing but, “One is reminded of the classics.” I guessed it would be something from a black-and-white film (Mr. Wright wouldn't call anything more recent a "classic") but didn't know what to expect.

Curiosity got the better of me, and I clicked both links. The random guy had sent a scene from The Naked Gun, and Mr. Wright had replied with -- what else -- the Three Stooges.


7 comments:

William Wright (WW) said...

The mention of Spaghetti in the context of Herman Gottlieb really caught my attention.

Spaghetti came up for me last night in looking again at your randomly shuffled words from your buddy holly post. The section beginning with "flag" stood out for me, with the total string ending with "pasta". Here is the section I am talking about:

"flag present dove Kelly White mango holly wood mail carrier pasta"

So, warning this is going to take our puns next level in in one instance, but I think it really does work.

First, though, I saw flag and hollywood and I remembered the closing ceremonies of the Paris Olympics, in which Tom Cruise carries a flag from France to Hollywood. The guy literally lands on the Hollywood sign with his flag. Cruise has been one character symbol for the Holy Ghost/ Swift Messenger, and we had this mention in your words of the "present dove" (Gift of the Holy Ghost), a flag, and Hollywood. Further, a definition of Messenger is quite literally a mail carrier: "one who bears a message; the bearer of a verbal or written communication".

Further, if you remember, my son had drawn that strange picture of the monkey holding a banana, who he called Spaghetti. Spaghetti is probably the best known form of Pasta, and its symbolic use was meant to illustrate the spaghettification of those who will manipulate spacetime on their long journey.

At this point I saw Mango split up into Man Go. At first, this seemed to just tie to this notion of the Swift Messenger/ Holy Ghost as a Man going to "Hollywood", via the Spaghettification mentioned above.

However, the Kelly White name seemed like this could be a different person, someone different than the 'present dove'. So, I was thinking about it a little bit as I was cleaning out part of our basement storage room. I found myself looking at a small appointment card that was several years old that was for my daughter. At the top was the company name "Weissman". And then it clicked in this weird multi-language pun that totally made sense.

Weiss is German for White, and so here we had a White Man, which links directly back to this word string: Kelly Whiteman. Further, in German you would pronounce the Weiss with a "V", but I saw this as an English pun, where Weiss, if pronounced in the standard English way, could be read as Wise (if you change the pronunciation a little bit). So, not only a White Man, but a Wise Man, as in one of the Three Wisemen.

So, getting back to the string, I now saw this as referring to the Holy Ghost plus one other - this Kelly White Man/ Kelly Wise Man - who will both go to Hollywood.

The identity of that individual I think relates to your mention of Herman Gottlieb.

William Wright (WW) said...

The name Kelly can mean "warrior", in addition to "bright-headed". Herman also means "Warrior". Exact same.

Gottlieb is German for "God's Love". This name has come up in that exact form in my own words from 2019-2020. Here is one excerpt:

Gottlieb au doriel (dorial?) sutieru usuteru [a correction word?] luthien tui daw-kay sow-nder

I'll get right to it and say that from the beginning I interpreted Gottlieb as a reference to John. John the Beloved - God's Love. In addition, the name in German always tied to my Germans in those 2019 and 2020 words, which to me came to comprise two Stone Couriers and John-Thingol. The fact that they numbered three in their trip here also has Three Wisemen vibes.

In any case, going back to that string, we have now this notion of the Holy Ghost and Thingol-John going together to Hollywood (located in the City of Angels). This also interestingly ties in with other words describing Thingol accompanying an individual back home. Three days before my "Noc" dream I shared the other day, I had this:

Benu au doriel mit Thingol luke elanor.

Benu here is the Elvish word for either Man or Husband, and in this case I think both. Notice the German "mit" before Thingol, further tying him to the Germans, which mean "with". So, here we have someone saying:

"Husband away (from some land or something... I don't have a good take on dor-iel) with Thingol enchanted sun star" as a very crude, exact interpretation.

I guessed as to the meaning of this in my previous blog with respect to Joseph, but I think it ties in here in some way.

I was also trying to think of where I had seen Kelly tie to John before, and then realized it was from Xanadu. Gene Kelly plays the role of Danny McGuire, who had taken on Thingol-John symbolism. In that story, you also have two individuals working together: John and Sonny Malone, played by Michael Beck, who also took on Holy Ghost symbolism. So, we had John and the Holy Ghost here together.

Which makes symbolic sense as well, if you think about it. John's baptism (Water) was directly linked to the Holy Ghost's baptism (Fire).

So, there you go - that portion of the random string could be referring to the Holy Ghost and John going somewhere together. This might explain why in your dream of Terry he was looking for Nemo. I interpreted Terry as John, and Nemo as the Holy Ghost.

William Wright (WW) said...

Also, here is a clip of the Paris olympic ceremony with Cruise landing in Hollywood with his flag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REVLVw3L5B4

Ra1119bee said...

William,
Yes, I think most of us are well aware of the hidden hand
  especially in music and Hollywood
 but as I'm sure you would
agree the hidden hand are everywhere.

 From my personal experience
when interpreting  paranormal experiences,
including syncs and dreams, it's the symbolism
that is connected and interpretated .

. Much like  differentiating
the message from the messenger,
or the actor from the character.
 
I named one of the fawns (that visit our property)
Fawn'se only because of the similarity sound
of the name. I  personally wasn't a fan of Happy Days
or the character Fonzie or the actor.

I don't think I watched any of the episodes, maybe
one or two.
If I were to guess I would guess Happy Daze
 was marketed to the older boomers.
 
I went down the Fonzie symbolic path regarding
  my interpretation of this sync
  (which if something is telepathically
transmitted as I believe this sync and many
of the syncs with you have been) I only
make a connection if I have a puzzle piece
for that particular sync which of course
in this case are the fawns who have been visiting
our property
Recall in my email to you why I believe
the fawn experiences have been out of the ordinary.


Happy Days and Fonzie was the research 
path I took because
I believe the big picture of this particular sync
 ( which the big picture is the WHY of any sync)
is about transformation which I personally believe
and have commented many many times,
 that we collectively  and individually
are on the precipice of, myself included.
 
The 40's is a very transformative time in our lives
 as are all decades especially when closer to the
'change' i.e. crossroads of each decade.
Your upcoming change being 50.
Mine being turning 70.
 
In the deer, Fonize, Buddy Holly, Happy Days
 and Billy Joel's song, We Didn't Start the Fire'
sync I believe the big picture is the element of FIRE
which of course fire, i.e. the Phoenix
is a very transformative element and event.

Recall in my comment I connected Fonzie's
 Italian greaser, ( in Britian the Teddy Boy,
in West Side Story, the Jets and the Sharks )
image/Archetype,  Fonzie's motorcycle
and his signature two thumbs up
( thumbs being symbolic in the Mudras as fire )
with rebellion.

And isn't it rebellion that starts the fire?
  

The big picture, i.e. the destination and IMO, is always
to be considered when interpreting the paranormal,
because it answers the question of Why
the synchronicity was given to us in
the first place.

The puzzle pieces serve as the 'ride'( many
times very thrilling) that got us to the destination :-))
IMHO, of course.


Fonzie Doing the Double Thumbs Up While Saying "AYYYYYY
( Note the W on the back wall )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4SbDtBkpg0

An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Empire_of_Their_Own

WanderingGondola said...

I basically only know the Fonz for his "ayyyy" and for being involved in the origin of the phrase "jumping the shark".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark

Those emails are very peculiar, and not just because Synlogos is the only solid link I can see between you, Vox and Mr. Wright.

The full "behind that spaghetti" sentence struck me in relation to how I envision God. The director of an opera company is a good analogy.

William Wright (WW) said...

Correction: I took a look at that Tom Cruise video again after I linked it, and he lands in the Hollywood Hills and then heads over to the sign... he doesn't land directly on the sign.

Ra1119bee said...

William,
Also and speaking of Buddy Holly and Fire..
check out the 1957 song Great Balls of Fire, originally
recorded by Jerry Lee Lewis.

Also and while fire wasn't attributed to the crash,
on Feb 3, 1959 ,Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens,
and "The Big Bopper" J. P. Richardson
were all killed in a plane crash near Clear Lake, Iowa,
together with pilot Roger Peterson.

Also Hula Hoop in the We Didn't Start
the Fire lyrics may also be symbolic
of Saturn. The Black Belt. Santa wears
a Black Belt.

Buddy Holly, Ben-Hur
Space Monkey, Mafia
Hula Hoops, Castro
Edsel is a no-go
U-2, Syngman Rhee
Payola and Kennedy
Chubby Checker, Psycho
Belgians in the Congo


Great Balls of Fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkomfvJMJcc&t=5s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_the_Music_Died

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