Saturday, August 10, 2024

Stop! You must not hop on Pop!

In "Malk and banned books," I posted an old Simpsons clip Wandering Gondola found. I commented on the fact that it showed a Dr. Seuss book being banned, and that the school band was playing "God Save the King," but it took our sharp-eyed friend Debbie to point out the connecting link between these two things. The banned Seuss book is Hop on Pop. The students are playing "God Save the King," but when the teacher leaves, one of them points out that now "we can play the forbidden music," and the band switches to playing "Pop Goes the Weasel." In each case, what is banned is Pop.

Actually, Hop on Pop is a self-banning book, since it says, "Stop! You must not [title of the book]!" A bit self-referential, kind of like Abbie Hoffman's Steal This Book.


Debbie and William Wright had some ideas about possible meanings of this Pop ban, mostly starting from the assumption that Pop means Papa -- i.e., father or pope (or potato, I suppose). I'll circle back to that reading, but my initial train of thought went in a different direction: not to Papa but to poppy.

Why are we even talking about "Malk" in the first place? Because of a controversy over whether a particular word in the Old Testament should be read as malkam or Milkom, the latter being the god of the Ammonites (probably; some people think it should always be read as malkam and that the cult of "Milkom" never existed). This god was prominently featured in my December 2023 post "Milkommen." Also featured in that post was a book about opium called The Milk of Paradise:


Olaf left a comment on my "Malk and banned books" post pointing out that the "Vitamin R" on the Malk carton in The Simpsons was probably a reference to Ritalin. Ritalin is a stimulant, not an opiate, but the idea of "milk" which is actually a psychotropic drug is still a clear link to The Milk of Paradise. Rereading my "Milkommen" post just now, I was surprised to discover that it includes this sentence:

"We would pop champagne and raise a toast" is a recurring line in "Kings & Queens."

There's that word pop again, and in connection with yet another psychotropic drug, alcohol. "Kings & Queens" ties right in with the Malk theme, since malkam means "their king," and I even published a post called "King Malk's crown."

That post was about a movie in which the John Malkovich character (whose name has the interesting meaning "Heathen Passover") plans to become King of England -- which brings us to William Wright's recent post "Crucifying John Malkovich." He recounts a dream in which a group of men, including Malkovich, walked into a Mormon-looking church carrying crosses, on which they were later crucified upside down along the walls of the church. (I thought he said there were 14 crucified men, which would correspond to the 14 Stations of the Cross displayed along the walls of many Catholic churches, but rereading it now I see he didn't actually specify a number.) William's interpretation is that Malkovich and company represent the Great and Abominable Church -- the leaders of a counterfeit religion that persecutes the true Saints of God -- and that Malkovich specifically represents Brigham Young (and various other characters whom William identifies with Young).

Like William, I consider myself a "Mormon" but believe that the institution that used to call itself the Mormon Church is deeply corrupt. Longtime readers will know that the tag I use for posts calling out the corruption of the CJCLDS is "Satan popping on the apricot tree." Popping! And "on the tree" is a poetic way of referring to crucifixion. For example, Christ is said to have borne our sins "in his own body on the tree" (1 Pet. 2:24).

An upside down cross represents both St. Peter, the first pope, and Satan. Going back to Debbie and William's reading of pop as papa, "Satan popping" could mean Satan playing the role of a pope or religious leader. This fits right in with the poppy reading as well, since organized religion has famously been characterized as "the opiate of the masses."

In a comment, William Wright refers to Satan's role in overseeing religious teaching in the Mormon temple ritual:

One can analogize the LDS temple endowment where Satan is asked how the people are receiving his teaching. "Very Well", was his reply. Perhaps a strong dose of "Vitamin R" helps with that reception.

The endowment ceremony used to include a "preacher" character who taught Protestant doctrines, was rejected by Adam, and was ultimately revealed to be in the employ of Satan. By the time I went through the temple, this character had been removed, but Satan's lines referring to his preaching were retained, resulting in this oddly self-referential scene, to which William alluded:

PETER: Good morning.

LUCIFER: Good morning gentlemen.

PETER: What are you doing here?

LUCIFER: Observing the teaching of these people. [indicating with a gesture the audience of worshipers in the temple]

PETER: What is being taught?

LUCIFER: The philosophies of men, mingled with scripture.

PETER: How is this teaching received?

LUCIFER: Very well!

There is no longer a Protestant preacher for Lucifer to be referring to, so the script was, incredibly, changed to make him refer to the Mormon temple ceremony itself! Very meta, a bit like Hop on Pop saying, "Stop! You must not [read] Hop on Pop!"

A bit later in the ceremony, Peter and his fellow Apostles come back and tell Satan who they are:

PETER: I am Peter.

JAMES: I am James.

JOHN: I am John.

LUCIFER: Yes, I thought I knew you. What are you going to do now?

PETER: We will dismiss you without further argument.

LUCIFER: Aah! You have looked over my kingdom, and my greatness and glory. Now you want to take possession of the whole of it. I have a word to say concerning these people [again indicating the audience of worshipers]. If they do not walk up to every covenant they make at these altars in this temple this day, they will be in my power!

PETER: Satan, we command you to depart!

And depart he does, though clearly against his will.

This, in connection with the pop theme, made me think of a scene from the P. G. Wodehouse book The Code of the Woosters. Roderick Spode (an "amateur dictator" based on British fascist Oswald Mosley) has found a book in which Gussie Fink-Nottle has been writing unflattering things about Spode and others. Bertie Wooster discovers Spode beating on Gussie's door, threatening him with violence.

Spode believes that Wooster knows a scandalous secret about him (though in fact he does not), and Wooster uses this to control Spode. Although Spode hates Wooster, he feels he has no choice but to obey him, in much the same way that Lucifer obeys Peter in the ceremony.

"Give me that book, Spode!"

"Yes, I would like you to look at it, Wooster. Then you will see what I mean. I came upon this," he said, "in a rather remarkable way. . . ."

I think Roderick Spode's idea was that we were going to pore over the pages together. When he saw me slip the volume into my pocket, I sensed the feeling of bereavement.

"Are you going to keep the book, Wooster?"

"I am."

"But I wanted to show it to Sir Watkyn. There's a lot about him in it, too."

"We will not cause Sir Watkyn needless pain, Spode."

"Perhaps you're right. Then I'll be getting on with breaking this door down?"

"Certainly not," I said sternly. "All you do is pop off."

"Pop off?"

"Pop off. Leave me, Spode. I would be alone."

And Spode has no choice but to "pop off," leaving the stolen book with Wooster.

One more thing: When I was a seminary student, we had to memorize various scriptural passages and references, and one of these was John 10:16 -- "Other sheep I have which are not of this fold," etc. I was assigned to create a mnemonic for this, and I drew a picture of a pope driving a pickup truck. "4x4" was written on the bed of the truck, and a flag flying from it said "Pope John X" -- so that's John 10:16. There were lots of sheep in the bed of the truck, and the pope was shouting into a megaphone at some sheep outside, saying, "Come join the fold!"

For some reason, yesterday I randomly thought of that old picture and tried (with limited success) to recreate it using AI:


The AI portrayed the pope as the sinister Francis. I imagine him shouting "Hop in!" but I can't think he's taking those sheep anywhere good -- to une Pâque sauvage, perhaps.

Stop, sheep! You must not hop on Pop!


Note added: Debbie suggests in a comment that the yellow creatures hopping on Pop might be weasels, saying the ears look similar. I googled weasel so I could take a look at the ears, and this sidebar popped up:


If you search for weasel's main prey, the main answer that comes back is voles and mice. The sidebar, though, highlights chipmunks. See my "Round leaves and chip monks" and William Wright's "Alvin, Chipmunks, Wisemen, and 'a chance to find if all we've dreamed in dreams was true'." William identifies Alvin and the Chipmunks with Three Wise Men, one of whom (in his interpretation) is none other than St. Peter -- so this is conceptually very close to the trio of Peter, James, and John in the temple scene I've quoted above.

8 comments:

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Shortly after posting this, I ran across this article about a man who is worried his drink might be contaminated (drugged?) because it didn't "pop."

https://clickhole.com/did-someone-tamper-with-my-fucking-snapple-this-mans-snapple-cap-did-not-pop/

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

John Malkovich played the fictional Pope John Paul III in the series "The New Pope."

Ra1119bee said...

William,
Part 1
Excellent job of connecting those puzzle pieces!!

Another interesting connection may be with the weasel itself
to what you wrote in this post.

copy and paste (asterisk's mine)
You wrote: "William's interpretation is that Malkovich and company
represent the Great and Abominable Church --
the leaders of a ***counterfeit religion**** that persecutes
the true Saints of God" -

also you wrote this: "Like William, I consider myself a "Mormon"
but believe that the institution that used to call itself
the Mormon Church is deeply *** corrupt.***
~~~~~~
What's the connection ?
In popular vernacular a weasel is someone who
avoids doing something that they have agreed to do,
especially by being **dishonest.
Although they had signed a contract, for example,
they try to weasel out of the deal later.

And this from etymology online:
weasel (v.)
The sense of "extricate oneself (from a difficult place)
like a weasel" is first recorded 1925; that of
"to evade and equivocate" is from 1956."

and this:
weasel ( n.)
Old English weosule, wesle "weasel," from Proto-Germanic
*wisulon (source also of Old Norse visla, Middle Dutch wesel,
Dutch wezel, Old High German wisula, German Wiesel),
probably related to Proto-Germanic *wisand- "bison"
(see bison), with a base sense of "stinking animal,"
because both animals have a foul, musky smell
(compare Latin vissio "stench").

and also this about weasel words: ( see link )
"Definitions of the word 'weasel' that imply deception
and irresponsibility include: the noun form, referring to a sneaky,
untrustworthy, or insincere person; the verb form,
meaning to manipulate shiftily; and the phrase
"to weasel out," meaning "to squeeze one's way out
of something" or "to evade responsibility"
~~~~~

Now, consider this:
In the Simpson's clip that you posted AND in the Barney and Friends
clip ( repost below ) AND the : Stop! Don't Hop on Pop illustration
all point to some type of deception.

Case in point:
In the Simpson's clip, the principal of the school is trying to deceive
the faculty and students, which would explain why
the band members wanted to play the 'forbidden music'.
Perhaps in the same vein of insinuating that they know that :
The Emperor has no clothes.

In the Barney and Friends video clip, when the words: Pop
Goes the Weasel! is sung, the "pop" either comes from
the trickster/clown toy, the fictional Barney dinosaur
or the little girl ( who is symbolic of innocence)
when she is in the green shed.
Note that she opens a green gate/door to get out of the shed.

I think you've had green door syncs mentioned
in several of your previous posts?

Ra1119bee said...


William,
Part 2

The trickster/clown archetype maintains the illusion by providing
entertainment for distraction. However a personal 'encounter'
with the trickster can also help us see though the illusion as well,
as the trickster always lets us know that although he is wearing
a 'smile' and his bright colorful clothing he never hides
what or who he truly is, unlike a deceiver.

The trickster archetype almost always comes into our lives
at times when we need to 'wake up' from
the illusion/deception, so as to see things
from a different perspective, so as to perhaps find the truth.
I've had several encounters with the trickster archetype
throughout the years.

The trickster can either be our best friend by helping us to see
through the veil/curtain ( like Toto does for Dorothy
in the Wizard of Oz, or the trickster can be our worst enemy
as the trickster pulls the rug out from under us and
we fall down hard on our arse,
realizing that 'flying monkeys and wicked witches really do exist.
Oh my!

Also in the Barney and Friends clip we are showed who really
steers the ship, which is why I believe there is an
Eight Point Star in the window of the building.

So you may say : But children wouldn't understand
hidden symbolism of the eight point star.
Which I would agree.
However that's precisely the point of predictive programming.

The Eight point Star of Ishtar i.e Octagon is EVERYWHERE
in our existence in this duality dimension, including
something as trivial as a red and white STOP sign in the United States.
Recall my comments about the hidden
symbolism of the Ferris Wheel and also my comment
about repetition.

And last but not least ( and in most of Theodor Seuss Geisel 's
illustrations ) there is never an explanation as to what
or who the little furry creatures are, but look closely at the
Stop! Don't Hop on Pop illustration.

Those 2 young male and female characters hopping on pop
look very similar to weasels, at least to me.
How so?
Compare the ears in the illustration to weasel ears.


Barney - Pop Goes the Weasel (SONG)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOsCx218ztQ

And speaking of 'steering wheels and weasel's check this out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinner%27s_weasel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_Goes_the_Weasel

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/weasel-out-of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Great comments, Debbie. I haven't watched the Barney clip yet but should get around to it soon. As for the yellow creatures in Hop on Pop being weasels, the Chinese word for weasel is literally "yellow rat-wolf."

William Wright (WW) said...

Hop on Pop also has a multi-page scene involving a Wall. The first page of the scene has a group playing on top of the wall, with Red Balls featured. The next page shows them all falling off the wall. A potential reference to Humpty Dumpty and Company, along with the Red Stone.

In my story, it is a more accurate or correct account of that Fall which the GAC would most certainly like to remain on the Banned Books list.

Ra1119bee said...

WW,
part 1
I too noticed fall' illustration as it connects with my many
'falling down' comments about what I believe
to be the fall of humanity via transhumanism
and also the fall of the American Empire.

What is also interesting is the page
before the 'fall illustration' in Hop on Pop which shows
the 8 ORANGE characters playing Ball (Baal? )
on the Ball Wall. (see link )

Yellow and red, in the Maritime Innternational Signal Flags
is O for Oscar which means ; Man Overboard.
The next call flag is P for Papa ( the Blue Peter).

Yellow and red when mixed produces the color orange.
I'm sure you know that
Donald Trump has been given the moniker: ' Orange Man Bad'
in popular culture and there has been a lot of media buzz about
Trump and the color orange.
Donald Trump also 'fell down' at the Butler PA rally.

On the link that you recently commented on titled :
Jay Leno, Coco, and the killer rabbit, I noted several 'orange' syncs.
Including Conan O'Brien's hair.
Another 'orange hair' character was James Holmes
who was convicted
for the mass killing of 12 people and injuring 70
at the Aurora theater in Colorado in July 2012.
Do note that the word Aurora means 'Dawn'.

Recall my many comments regarding
the Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, and the song titled: The Weight
and my perspective how I believe the 2014 Dawn of the Planet
of the Apes movie connects to the fall of man carrying
too much weight from the ego.
Which interestingly The Dawn of the Planet
of the Apes movie takes place in San Franciso.

There is also a 'monkey ( moon-key) reference in the
song Pop goes the Weasel lyrics
in the Barney and Friends clip video. ( see link )
Also in the weasel lyrics is reference to 'a penny'.
Recall my comments about the movie Back
to the Future and J.C. Penny's and copper.

Ra1119bee said...

WW,
part 2
Although not orange, there is an illustration in Hop on Pop,
with a reference to red hair. The red haired character is lying
in bed with its head on a Yellow pillow.( see link )
The little girl singing Pop goes the Weasel with Barney
has red hair.

Another interesting red and yellow connection having to do
with hair was on January 20, 2016 at Joe Biden's Inaugration
where the poet Amanda Gorman read a poem titled: The Hill
We Climb. ( see link )
There is also reference in Hop on Pop about Will
climbing a Hill.


Also another recent "falling down' event was the sudden collapse
of a 190 million-year-old geologic structure called The Double Arch
which was a popular attraction at Lake Powel in Glen Canyon National
Recreation Area .
IMO, the Double Arch looks ( at least according to the photos)
Very 'golden- orangy' to me.

Plus the reference to Double Arch ( 2 ) is an interesting
Twinning connection as I believe and have predicted
of yet another twinning collapsing event,
which I believe may occur at the two Golden Gates. ( San Fran
and Jerusalem).
Do note that the Golden Gate Bridge's color in San Fran is
described as : 'International Orange.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_maritime_signal_flags
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2024/08/09/double-arch-glen-canyon-national/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hill_We_Climb
Here's a PDF of the Book : Hop on Pop.
https://archive.org/details/hop-on-pop/page/n9/mode/2up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Holmes_(mass_murderer)

Down of the Planet of the Apes 「the Weight」scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypt0Sl1akIo

Barney - Pop Goes the Weasel (SONG)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOsCx218ztQ


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