Tuesday, December 10, 2024

Stichomancy vs. polygamy

This is a further experiment with stichomancy -- posing a question and getting a truly-random Bible verse as an answer.

Since I've been reading lots of polygamy-denier material lately, I decided to ask, "Is polygamy of God?" I got this:

And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness (Mal. 1:3).

Esau was a polygamist, so that seems to be a "no" answer. Of course the verse immediately before it says "yet I loved Jacob," and Jacob was also a polygamist -- but the stichomantic premise is that you interpret the verse as an answer to your question, without regard for the original context.

A follow-up question, "What kind of person was Brigham Young?" got a much more on-the-nose answer:

And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart (1 Kgs. 11:3).

I'm not sure what's going on here, but it's obviously not just random chance.

9 comments:

Leo said...

I endorse both of those answers. In this case at least, stichomancy FTW.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Given your endorsement, just for fun, I asked “What kind of person is Leo?” and got this:

“There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and virgins without number” (Song of Solomon 6:8).

It seems to have become fixated on the polygamy theme even when I ask it something unrelated. Or perhaps it picked up on my “just for fun” motivation and responded in kind?

Leo said...

I guess I have to take the bad with the good but I can’t say I understand that one. I’m vehemently opposed to concubines and such.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

I don’t understand it, either. The odds against getting one of the only other verses in the Bible to mention large numbers of wives and concubines are astronomical, so it seems like it should mean something. A joke? A reference to a past life?

For what it’s worth, the next line is, “My dove, my undefiled is but one.”

William Wright (WW) said...

Leo had a dream or series of dreams in late 2019 that disturbed him enough that he shared a summary with a group of people (including me) at that time that were reading through Doug's books.

Those dreams were along this theme, if I remember correctly, so that is one possible connection.

Wm Jas Tychonievich said...

Dreams about polygamy and concubinage, you mean? Care to comment, Leo?

Leo said...

WW are you talking about the dream where I died at the beginning? If so, this is pretty wild. I have been drafting a post for that dream since yesterday but I have been planning it for a while before this. And I only just now read your comment about the dream. I wasn't writing it b/c of the polygamy connection at all though. I'll get it posted today. If you're thinking of a different dream just let me know. But seriously.......uncanny.

William Wright (WW) said...

No, I think I am referring to a different dream, and if I remember right, these were actually a series of intrusive, unwanted, and distressing dreams for you over several days or a period of time.

The dreams involved you being involved in some way with a harem, for lack of a better word, I guess.

The fact that the dreams had been going on for a little while, and that they were disturbing to you, is what prompted you to send a note about them to the larger group, either on Twist or email - I can't remember (and I may not have even these very general details right - that is just how I recall it now).

Leo said...

Your memory is unmatched, Bill. I had completely forgotten that but I just found it on Twist and posted it as a comment on my most recent post about Red. My mistake on the confusion. Since I was disturbed in the dream by what we discovered among the Mormons I thought that must be what you were thinking of. Plus, I also shared that dream on Twist in 2019. Anyway, record corrected, thanks for clarifying.